[Trooper9009]

I am gonna try riding few of the 600cc and 250cc and see which one feels better ...I think its gonna be pain in the A to find a used 600cc vehicle..as I dont wanna buy a new one....by the way how old can a bike be to be considered to be a good used bike... can we go back to 2004 models or should I be looking for something after 2007? I know it really depends on the condition/miles on the ride but just to get an idea....

[BoxerGT2.5]

If you need a helmet I have a New AGV steath and 3 shields I'm looking to move for cheap.

[Spec 1]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

The SV650 should be alright as long as you're not a dumbass. I'd normally recommend the Ninja 250 to people starting out, but a lot of people outgrow that really really quickly. That being said, the 250 is the safest bet, but it's not guaranteed you'll kill yourself if you start with something a bit faster than that. Heck, I knew a couple people who started out on 600's who outgrew them pretty quickly. Some people can do it, some can't. It's all about how you handle yourself and the situation.

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

A 250 is a great learners bike. Also if you don't want to have to trade up in 6 months to a year then you could start on the SV650 as mentioned before or even a 650R. Those bikes are not quite as high strung.

Whatever you do it is smart not to start on a SS bike like some idiots would tell you.

Originally Posted by Razzy

An SS bike, is a thorough bred race bike. These bikes are not meant for begginers at all. Mabye get to know your shit before spewing out crap.



Oh yea? I also gaurentee you I can out pace and out corner you on any fucking bike. Starting on a SS or especially a litre bike will make any rider pisss scared of the bike itself. You might say, this wasn't the case for you, but I gaurentee you, that the amount you can learn on a Ninja 250R, you will not be able to do so confidently on anything like a SS or litre bike.

Don't listen to these illiterate people spewing out garbage. As Blake posted, I made that thread and I too was in the same boat as you a while ago. I started on a Ninja 250R thanks to other users and after doing research, and I can say that was the best decision I made. Take the motorcycle course, get helmet, jacket, boots, and mabey riding pants and you are off to a good start. A Ninja 250R will greatly increase your skill level much more quickly than any other bike, and you will learn to use the bike to its potential rather than these fucking squids that only look at the CC and stop from one starbucks to another.

Do yourself a favour and DO NOT get a 600cc SS(supersport) like the CBR600, GSXR600, Yamaha R6, or the Kawasaki Ninja ZX6r. These are overkill, and litre bikes are on another planet.

Originally Posted by Digital.James

oh my how much crap us posted in this thread...

how fast people forget. most supersport bikes these days are faster than liter bikes were just five years ago. most supersport bikes have power curves that are so high, its almost impossible for a new rider to learn the basics, especially applying and maintaining throttle while cornering.

i would take a hard look at a vtwin bike like a monster or sv650. theyve got much easier to manage powerbands which make the most difference in learning how to ride imo.

All of these.

If you think you can handle your testosterone, purchase a Suzuki SV650 or Kawasaki 650R but for the love of God DO NOT buy a supersport bike (R6, ZX6R, GSXR, etc) as your first bike!!! You will end up either 1) Seriously injured/killed, 2) with a fucked up bike from laying it down in a corner, or 3) with seriously handicapped riding skills.



Will you people who don't ride PLEASE stop recommending 600cc SS bikes to beginners! You don't know whta you're talking about. And to those few guys who started on those bikes or (heavin forbid) a 1000cc SS, if you're not injured/dead and still riding you're in a 5% minority. Build SKILL first. I'm sure I could ride circles around your 1000cc SS on a 250cc standard.

[Trooper9009]

I dont like either the Suzuki SV650 or Kawasaki 650R...even if I happen to go 600c way i am gonna keep it off the highway till I am 100% sure ...I have started looking for the rides and i gonna go with the best deal I get ....pretty sure its gonna take a while though...

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Trooper9009

I dont like either the Suzuki SV650 or Kawasaki 650R...even if I happen to go 600c way i am gonna keep it off the highway till I am 100% sure ...I have started looking for the rides and i gonna go with the best deal I get ....pretty sure its gonna take a while though...

I hope you read the stickies on the site I told you about. Spec1 knows what he's talking about aswell. You would be surprised as to how many people on here have no clue what they are talking about. Sometimes it's better to not give any advice than give bad advice.

[Trooper9009]

Originally Posted by Razzy

I hope you read the stickies on the site I told you about. Spec1 knows what he's talking about aswell. You would be surprised as to how many people on here have no clue what they are talking about. Sometimes it's better to not give any advice than give bad advice.

hmmm..........I will it a thought..I better get it after riding one of those......

thoughts on Hyosung GT250R ??? I like the way it looks but its hard to find a used one and to sell one if you happen to get a new one...

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Trooper9009

hmmm..........I will it a thought..I better get it after riding one of those......

thoughts on Hyosung GT250R ??? I like the way it looks but its hard to find a used one and to sell one if you happen to get a new one...

Even if you like the looks of the Hyosung, the Ninja is clearly the better motorcycle.

[Kroy]

I don't know crap about bikes, but I hear from my friends that Ninja is a good starting bike.

[Spec 1]

Originally Posted by Trooper9009

hmmm..........I will it a thought..I better get it after riding one of those......

thoughts on Hyosung GT250R ??? I like the way it looks but its hard to find a used one and to sell one if you happen to get a new one...

Tha Kawasaki 250R is the best 250 out there and the new models (08+) look much better too. The hyosung isn't too bad of a bike all in all, the build quality will just be worse.

If you get a 2000-2006 Kawasaki 250R or even EX500 you should be able to sell it after a year or two at practically the same price it was purchased for.

[Trooper9009]

How about a 2006 cbr 600cc with 7k miles for $3500???

[Digital.James]

Originally Posted by Trooper9009

I dont like either the Suzuki SV650 or Kawasaki 650R...even if I happen to go 600c way i am gonna keep it off the highway till I am 100% sure ...I have started looking for the rides and i gonna go with the best deal I get ....pretty sure its gonna take a while though...

look at the suzuki sv650F, which has full fairings and looks like any other sportbike out there

oh and if you do get a kawasaki 250, know that the resale value on those bikes are so high, that you can buy a new one, ride it for 6 months, learn, and sell it for a fairly high amount.

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by Trooper9009

How about a 2006 cbr 600cc with 7k miles for $3500???

Goes to show how ignorant people are. Why are you asking? seems to be you've already made your mind.

[Alexander]

If your a bigger guy go with a Suzuki 650SV, that was my brother and I's first bike and we loved it, we are 180 lbs +.
If your smaller and want to ride Sport bikes down the road go with a Ninja 250R or a Suzuki GS500F.

[NSFW 335i]

busa

[Trooper9009]

Originally Posted by Razzy

Goes to show how ignorant people are. Why are you asking? seems to be you've already made your mind.

No disrepect bro.... Really appreciate the suggestions here however the bike will be off highway so taking my chances....

[jimmy330xi]

Well, I am kind of glad that my computer lost the connection and my last post didn't show up. I had a lot of good advice for you, but since you want to go ahead and look cool with a SuperSport 600 then it wouldn't apply anyways. Do your thing man, just make sure that you are careful and live to ride another day.
I will recommend this to you.
Books;
Motorcycle Safety Foundation Guide to motorcycling Excelence
Twist of the Wrist 1 & 2
Total Control High Performance Street Riding Techniques
Sportbike Suspension Tuning
DVD
Street Smarts 1, 2, & 3
Twist of the Wrist 1 & 2
Those helped me get a better understanding of the dynamics involved with riding a motorcycle. Make sure you understand what you are doing before you do it. No better way than studying the technical aspect of it.
Also... frequently go to an empty parking lot and experiment to see what your limits are with emergency braking, swerving, avoiding obstacles. always practice and keep your skills sharp.
Now, you went ahead and got a 600. It will take you a lot longer to learn to ride a bike properly, maybe you are one of those guys that is the exception to the rule, but they are less forgiving. you will be punished for your mistakes. You better be smooth with the throttle, the clutch, the handling and if you also have to pay attention to the power and learning, that is a lot to process when riding in the street. Throw to the equation the oncoming car that turns left in front of you, the grandma backing out of her driveway and the parallel parked cars opening their door or joining the road, none of those can see you, add a powerful bike and an inexperienced rider and we have a recipe for disaster. Be careful, and enjoy the ride.
One more thing, always wear your protective gear. Jacket, gloves, full face helmet, boots and riding jeans. Is not a matter of if I go down... is a matter of when. It will happen and more than likely won't be your fault, but you want to be protected and live to ride again.

[jimmy330xi]

Originally Posted by FrankoQ

I want this...

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Putting my order in next month and turning my R1 into a track bike.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by jimmy330xi

Putting my order in next month and turning my R1 into a track bike.

Asshole... Sorry I'm just jealous.

[jimmy330xi]

Originally Posted by Aonarch

Asshole... Sorry I'm just jealous.

Haha, I find amusing that our cars look similar, different colors. Get the S1000rr and it will look like it was planned out. Here is what I mean.

[jimmy330xi]

To the OP, and every rider here
Here is some motivation.

[BTM]

People I know seem to speak highly of the SV650 as conducive to beginners yet with enough power/chassis to go beyond "beginner" skill level... have you considered that?

Whoops must've missed it, last on your list

[jimmy330xi]

Originally Posted by Trooper9009

No disrepect bro.... Really appreciate the suggestions here however the bike will be off highway so taking my chances....

He already made his mind.