Mercedes EQS SUV coming April 19

stealth.pilot · 04-19-2022, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleJoe

As I already posted, I'm buying an iX for sure but the EQS SUV is better looking inside and out regardless of the price difference so I'll be ordering one of these as well. Oh, and I'm not a woman, or a fanboy.

Same here. It will also appeal to those who want a luxury EV that doesn't look like a minivan.

NomoTesla · 04-19-2022, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleJoe

As I already posted, I'm buying an iX for sure but the EQS SUV is better looking inside and out regardless of the price difference so I'll be ordering one of these as well. Oh, and I'm not a woman, or a fanboy.

I'm happy that price is no object for you, but I suspect that is not the majority of us!

Most would include price difference in their evaluations.

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Same here. It will also appeal to those who want a luxury EV that doesn't look like a minivan.

Don't forget the EQS SUV will also appeal to those who like the station wagon look.

LittleJoe · 04-19-2022, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

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Originally Posted by LittleJoe

As I already posted, I'm buying an iX for sure but the EQS SUV is better looking inside and out regardless of the price difference so I'll be ordering one of these as well. Oh, and I'm not a woman, or a fanboy.

I'm happy that price is no object for you, but I suspect that is not the majority of us!

Most would include price difference in their evaluations.

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Same here. It will also appeal to those who want a luxury EV that doesn't look like a minivan.

Don't forget the EQS SUV will also appeal to those who like the station wagon look.

As was mentioned above, this is their three row premium SUV so it would naturally cost more than the IX. But they are coming with the EQS EQE which is a 5 seater similar to the iX and will likely be priced similar at the iX. But none of that really matters to you since you're just throwing stones at the new Mercedes SUV. Buy whatever you want.

07e92 · 04-19-2022, 10:07 AM

Looking good! EQS SUV is equivalent to ICE GLS and was my previous car, now I am debating whether to buy an iX or cancel my order and wait for the EQS SUV.

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Originally Posted by LittleJoe

As I already posted, I'm buying an iX for sure but the EQS SUV is better looking inside and out regardless of the price difference so I'll be ordering one of these as well. Oh, and I'm not a woman, or a fanboy.

TXSchnee · 04-19-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

I imagine the EQS will appeal a lot to women.

As a woman I have to say that statement is pretty (I will let you fill in the blank here). Also, station wagons are awesome, at least in high performance guise (AMG E63S and RS6) so looking like a wagon isn't really a bad thing. The iX looks fine, but the EQS SUV is a better looking vehicle, I will still order the iX and wait for the Cayenne EV that is rumored for 2024.

NomoTesla · 04-19-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TXSchnee

As a woman I have to say that statement is pretty (I will let you fill in the blank here). Also, station wagons are awesome, at least in high performance guise (AMG E63S and RS6) so looking like a wagon isn't really a bad thing. The iX looks fine, but the EQS SUV is a better looking vehicle, I will still order the iX and wait for the Cayenne EV that is rumored for 2024.

All I meant was that it is a more feminine design with its curved, bubbly look. Those types of designs tend to appeal to women more than men, the latter tend to prefer more aggressive and masculine styling. Just an opinion and observation, nothing personal.

This is one of the reasons why I prefer the iX—it has a more aggressive look.

Also worth noting is that Mercedes EVs do not allow for one-pedal driving (BMW iX "B" mode).

Paladin1 · 04-19-2022, 11:32 AM

iX looks like a BMW, EQS looks like a Mercedes, and there's a reason I'm not driving a Mercedes now. But different strokes, and I'm sure it will be a nice SUV. The good news for everyone is that it looks like the EV SUV market is booming for the next few years....

NomoTesla · 04-19-2022, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladin1

iX looks like a BMW, EQS looks like a Mercedes, and there's a reason I'm not driving a Mercedes now. But different strokes, and I'm sure it will be a nice SUV. The good news for everyone is that it looks like the EV SUV market is booming for the next few years....

The best looking SUV EV, imho, is the Ford Mach-E. But I can't get my hands on one to test drive while I was able to drive the iX.

stealth.pilot · 04-19-2022, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

Also worth noting is that Mercedes EVs do not allow for one-pedal driving (BMW iX "B" mode).

That is an ignorant post - especially as I have addressed this multiple times on this thread. Mercedes does allow one-pedal driving:

Set recovery to Strong, and turn-off creep mode. Same as Tesla before they got rid of these options.

That gives you one pedal driving.

NomoTesla · 04-19-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

That is an ignorant post - especially as I have addressed this multiple times on this thread. Mercedes does allow one-pedal driving:

Set recovery to Strong, and turn-off creep mode. Same as Tesla before they got rid of these options.

That gives you one pedal driving.

I guess we should all take your word for it, then, otherwise you hurl insults and behave like a bully? I don't know who you are and have no clue about your prior posts, sir. I just joined 2 weeks ago. Triggered much?

The EQS doesn't come to a full stop without using friction brakes. A brake is a pedal, is it not? That's not true one-pedal driving like Tesla, BMW, and others where the car comes to a complete stop using regeneration only. One-pedal does not require the use of a brake pedal to stop the car. In an EQS, if you don't apply the brake the car will keep rolling even with creep off.

Besides, this is a BMW forum. Why are you getting all hot and bothered about what people say about Mercedes?

stealth.pilot · 04-19-2022, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

The EQS doesn't come to a full stop without using friction brakes. A brake is a pedal, is it not? That's not true one-pedal driving like Tesla, BMW, and others where the car comes to a complete stop using regeneration only. One-pedal does not require the use of a brake pedal to stop the car. In an EQS, if you don't apply the brake the car will keep rolling even with creep off.

What you wrote here is incorrect. The EQS comes to a stop without use of a brake pedal with a similar rate of regen-based deceleration to what I experienced in my previous Tesla. This is by definition one-pedal driving.

NomoTesla · 04-19-2022, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

What you wrote here is incorrect. The EQS comes to a stop without use of a brake pedal with a similar rate of regen-based deceleration to what I experienced in my previous Tesla. This is by definition one-pedal driving.

Not according to CNET and others. They must also be incorrect, then?

With maximum regen and no creep, the sedan approaches that one-pedal driving feel I've come to love in other EVs, but doesn't quite pull it off. You'll still need to actually depress the left pedal to bring the EQS to a full stop.

patrobX5 · 04-19-2022, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

I imagine the EQS will appeal a lot to women.

Not this one

Much prefer the look of the sporty iX vs the "rounded" design of the EQS, the rear reminds me of the Lincoln Corsair

It just doesn't look as modern and fresh as the iX from outside.

B///MWGuy · 04-19-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

All I meant was that it is a more feminine design with its curved, bubbly look. Those types of designs tend to appeal to women more than men, the latter tend to prefer more aggressive and masculine styling. Just an opinion and observation, nothing personal.

This is one of the reasons why I prefer the iX—it has a more aggressive look.

Also worth noting is that Mercedes EVs do not allow for one-pedal driving (BMW iX "B" mode).

Curvy and bubbly look reminds me a lot of porsches (all models) and many sports cars...
I'm male and I find myself attracted to these.

stealth.pilot · 04-19-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

Not according to CNET and others. They must also be incorrect, then?

With maximum regen and no creep, the sedan approaches that one-pedal driving feel I've come to love in other EVs, but doesn't quite pull it off. You'll still need to actually depress the left pedal to bring the EQS to a full stop.

Yes they are incorrect. They had 40 minutes to review the car and didn't bother to go through the menu to change the settings.

People who own the car develop a knowledge of the vehicles capabilities and configurability that journalist's lack.

LittleJoe · 04-19-2022, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

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Originally Posted by NomoTesla

The EQS doesn't come to a full stop without using friction brakes. A brake is a pedal, is it not? That's not true one-pedal driving like Tesla, BMW, and others where the car comes to a complete stop using regeneration only. One-pedal does not require the use of a brake pedal to stop the car. In an EQS, if you don't apply the brake the car will keep rolling even with creep off.

What you wrote here is incorrect. The EQS comes to a stop without use of a brake pedal with a similar rate of regen-based deceleration to what I experienced in my previous Tesla. This is by definition one-pedal driving.

I test drove an EQS 450+ and definitely does "one-pedal driving". That fellow seems insecure about the new EQS 580 SUV for some reason so he's trolling. To each his own but I no need to troll others just because they prefer another brand. Keep it civil guys.

Mani59 · 04-19-2022, 02:16 PM

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hugo_nz · 04-19-2022, 02:30 PM

Yeah nah. Its just so awfully “meh”. Agree with the sentiment above that it looks like a Porsche. It’s certainly not a head turner which may be what some are looking for in an EV. Boring looks and an eye watering price do not a compelling purchase make.

JonoNZ · 04-19-2022, 02:34 PM

I love the look of the iX, but I like this too. As I’ve yet to decide on the iX I will definitely be taking a look at the EQS SUV before making a decision.

hugo_nz · 04-19-2022, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JonoNZ

I love the look of the iX, but I like this too. As I’ve yet to decide on the iX I will definitely be taking a look at the EQS SUV before making a decision.

Don't hold your breath for it coming to NZ any time soon. EQS has been in pre-order for months with no official pricing, EQE is not even on the release radar yet, so this should maybe hit dealerships sometime next year.

JonoNZ · 04-19-2022, 02:45 PM

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Don't hold your breath for it coming to NZ any time soon. EQS has been in pre-order for months with no official pricing, EQE is not even on the release radar yet, so this should maybe hit dealerships sometime next year.

Yep, that will definitely be a factor, but the x50 order is likely 2023 now anyway. Though an M60 sounds like it can be had a bit sooner.

TechCTU · 04-19-2022, 02:51 PM

Looks aside, sales folks I have talked to say it's a long way off. Mercedes has had real problems with supply chain issues. It's not like the old days where they announce a new model and they start shipping within 6 months. I wouldn't expect anything well in 2023 and be ready to pay above sticker.

Not sure it's worth the very long wait or 25-30% additional cost at this time. Happy with my iX choice.

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