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      03-17-2018, 05:41 PM   #67
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because the aston has an engine (V12 or V8) & they have a certain appeal & they are very good looking cars. the i8 was a good looking car in 2014, 5 years later the roadster should
look at least a little different. the car under all perfect conditions in 3.8 & nobody has been able to get the same time since. it's a 4.0 second 0-60 car.
Nonsense. The car has hit 3.6, and has averaged 3.8 numerous times. If you’re going to criticize a car’s stats, then you should at least know it’s stats:
https://www.0-60specs.com/bmw-i8-0-60-times/

So, it is quicker than most Aston Martins. Significantly more efficient than any Aston Martin, and more bold in design that most Aston Martins. I8 turns more heads than any Vantage possibly can. So, I ask again, why not $160k?

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      03-18-2018, 04:35 AM   #68
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when i said i will battle anyone i'm strictly talking about how the car is $165k. that's it. i meant for it to come off as saying that i will battle anyone who things that car is worth 165j
k. that's all
If people pay more for an Aston Martin, then why not 165k for the roadster i8? It is one of the best looking cars in the market, even cars much more expensive than it. ItÂ’s more gas efficient than most cars, despite doing 0-60 in 3.6 seconds (Car & Driver 2015)?
because the aston has an engine (V12 or V8) & they have a certain appeal & they are very good looking cars. the i8 was a good looking car in 2014, 5 years later the roadster should
look at least a little different. the car under all perfect conditions in 3.8 & nobody has been able to get the same time since. it's a 4.0 second 0-60 car.
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Sonny, welcome back to the i8 forum. Just remember to fight fair and we'll all promise to be respectful. Peace and love
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      03-18-2018, 06:39 AM   #69
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because the aston has an engine (V12 or V8) & they have a certain appeal & they are very good looking cars. the i8 was a good looking car in 2014, 5 years later the roadster should
look at least a little different. the car under all perfect conditions in 3.8 & nobody has been able to get the same time since. it's a 4.0 second 0-60 car.
I was running an aston v12 vantage for two years when i bought the i8.

The aston has 510bhp.

One of the reasons why i bought the i8 was that it was faster in the real world. It's performance is far easier to deploy, far more accessible.

The aston felt a lot heavier and very antiquated when compared to the i8. It felt like a dinosaur in fact. The traction is way poorer mainly due to 2wd and corsa's. In sub 10c temperatures or heavy rain, you can completely forget it, the aston was totally useless. I remember coming from a weekend away on the motorway in heavy rains doing 50mph and scared to aquaplane at any moment. Nissan micra's were passing me 20-30mph faster and their drivers seemed amused. I wasn't.

I still love aston's and the v12v in particular but a/ be careful of what magazines and emotions tell you, and b/ headline hp figures can be misleading in the real world.

The i8 has big torque figures available instantly. This is what makes it punch above its hp 'weight category'.
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      03-18-2018, 09:01 AM   #70
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I was running an aston v12 vantage for two years when i bought the i8.

The aston has 510bhp.

One of the reasons why i bought the i8 was that it was faster in the real world. It's performance is far easier to deploy, far more accessible.

The aston felt a lot heavier and very antiquated when compared to the i8. It felt like a dinosaur in fact. The traction is way poorer mainly due to 2wd and corsa's. In sub 10c temperatures or heavy rain, you can completely forget it, the aston was totally useless. I remember coming from a weekend away on the motorway in heavy rains doing 50mph and scared to aquaplane at any moment. Nissan micra's were passing me 20-30mph faster and their drivers seemed amused. I wasn't.

I still love aston's and the v12v in particular but a/ be careful of what magazines and emotions tell you, and b/ headline hp figures can be misleading in the real world.

The i8 has big torque figures available instantly. This is what makes it punch above its hp 'weight category'.
Agree completely. I have the same experience coming from an M5. That car has 560 hp and most F10 M5’s dyno over 600 but at lower speeds I couldn’t get the power to the ground without the traction control kicking in which made the rear tires stutter and hop. Not fun. And, no matter how good the system is there is always turbo lag until you are well spooled up. Don’t get me wrong, the M5 is massively quick and just about unbeatable from a roll - we’re talking Porsche Turbo S rolling acceleration. At higher speeds it’s a monster and from above 100 mph it would absolutely embarrass my i8. Accelerating from 100 to 150 mph takes about 10 seconds for the M5 and 15-18 seconds for the i8. Horsepower rules at high speeds but torque (and quick access to it) rules in the real world. My days of caring about or wanting to accelerate above 100 mph are over. The i8’s power is all right there, right now and it’s much more satisfying than 560 hp that I can’t get to. The i8’s acceleration numbers up to 80 or 90 are pretty good and that is where I do my driving. I also have an electric motorcycle, a Zero SR, and it’s the same story. It has a relatively modest 70 hp but the torque is off the charts and instant - in the real world it destroys other bikes with much higher horsepower. I’ll take easily accessible torque every time. “Punching above its weight “ is a perfect description of the i8.
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The instant torque is why I bought the i8, and I doubt my next car will be a pure ICE.
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For some reason I now can't quote from prior posts on this thread.

I was going to point out that the 0-60 site has unrealistically optimistic 0-60 times for every car listed. They are all off by a large margin. The site is, in my view, totally unreliable.
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For some reason I now can't quote from prior posts on this thread.

I was going to point out that the 0-60 site has unrealistically optimistic 0-60 times for every car listed. They are all off by a large margin. The site is, in my view, totally unreliable.
I have that feeling as well. The i8 is not very fast 0-60 or at higher speeds, but many other intervalls which you experience in real traffic are.
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      03-18-2018, 01:33 PM   #74
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For some reason I now can't quote from prior posts on this thread.

I was going to point out that the 0-60 site has unrealistically optimistic 0-60 times for every car listed. They are all off by a large margin. The site is, in my view, totally unreliable.



Car & Driver: “Hold both pedals, watch the revs climb to 2500 rpm, release the brake, and the i8 will jump to 60 mph in a more price-appropriate 3.6 seconds. Without launch control activated, the i8 will do the 5-to-60 run in 4.6 seconds.”

Motor Trend: “The i8 goes from 0 to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and all the way to 100 mph in 9.7 seconds. It finishes the quarter mile in 12.4 seconds at 121.1 mph. Not bad for a 1.5L, 3-cylinder turbocharged engine.”

Road & Track: “While BMW has carefully downplayed expectations with this car—the company line during development was always that the i8 would be "quick enough"—in reality, it's a rocket: 0–60 mph in just 3.8 seconds.”

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      03-18-2018, 05:40 PM   #75
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Car & Driver: “Hold both pedals, watch the revs climb to 2500 rpm, release the brake, and the i8 will jump to 60 mph in a more price-appropriate 3.6 seconds. Without launch control activated, the i8 will do the 5-to-60 run in 4.6 seconds.”

Motor Trend: “The i8 goes from 0 to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and all the way to 100 mph in 9.7 seconds. It finishes the quarter mile in 12.4 seconds at 121.1 mph. Not bad for a 1.5L, 3-cylinder turbocharged engine.”

Road & Track: “While BMW has carefully downplayed expectations with this car—the company line during development was always that the i8 would be "quick enough"—in reality, it's a rocket: 0–60 mph in just 3.8 seconds.”
Out of curiosity, I did several 0-60 mph runs with my i8 (back in 2015) at a private business park that was being constructed. With LC (launch control), the runs averaged 3.9 to 4.0 seconds. Without LC, they averaged 4.5 to 4.6 seconds. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough asphalt to clock a straight quarter-mile run.
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So did Sonny buy his dream car? Did he put a Trump/Roy Moore bumber sticker on it, too?
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      04-15-2018, 03:05 PM   #77
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So did Sonny buy his dream car? Did he put a Trump/Roy Moore bumber sticker on it, too?
still trying to pick a fight i see? i guess old liberals in commiefornia have nothing better to do than tell everyone how bad of people they are. bye now!
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Car & Driver: “Hold both pedals, watch the revs climb to 2500 rpm, release the brake, and the i8 will jump to 60 mph in a more price-appropriate 3.6 seconds. Without launch control activated, the i8 will do the 5-to-60 run in 4.6 seconds.”

Motor Trend: “The i8 goes from 0 to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and all the way to 100 mph in 9.7 seconds. It finishes the quarter mile in 12.4 seconds at 121.1 mph. Not bad for a 1.5L, 3-cylinder turbocharged engine.”

Road & Track: “While BMW has carefully downplayed expectations with this car—the company line during development was always that the i8 would be "quick enough"—in reality, it's a rocket: 0–60 mph in just 3.8 seconds.”
Is that a typo for Motor Trend. 121 MPH trap speed? I think they meant 112?
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still trying to pick a fight i see? i guess old liberals in commiefornia have nothing better to do than tell everyone how bad of people they are. bye now!
So he's gone AGAIN?

I feel better for democracy...
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still trying to pick a fight i see? i guess old liberals in commiefornia have nothing better to do than tell everyone how bad of people they are. bye now!
Commiefornia? That's a good one. I guess someone forgot to tell the land values out here that we are communist because good ol' capitalism keeps pushing them higher and higher. Maybe that's because people actually want to live here.
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still trying to pick a fight i see? i guess old liberals in commiefornia have nothing better to do than tell everyone how bad of people they are. bye now!
I see your intellectual prowess never ceases to amaze. I hope the McLaren Forum is benefitting from your broad-minded and irrefutable views when it comes to cars and political science as well.
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Just thought I’d throw my 2 cents in about McLaren.
I have a friend that lives in the Palm Springs area that owns a MP4-12C. He says it’s been the most unreliable and expensive to repair pice of junk he has ever owned. It is making him crazy with trips to the dealer. Parts are hard to get too. Hope you have better luck.
On the other hand ... I’ve owned the i8 for about a year with not a single issue.

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Is that a typo for Motor Trend. 121 MPH trap speed? I think they meant 112?
Must be a typo. Good catch.

Guys, please refrain from personal insults and focus on the topic instead.
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Must be a typo. Good catch.

Guys, please refrain from personal insults and focus on the topic instead.
So the OP obviously posts the original message with the completely transparent goal of trolling the forum. ...and now you want to keep the posts "on topic"?

just checking...
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So the OP obviously posts the original message with the completely transparent goal of trolling the forum. ...and now you want to keep the posts "on topic"?

just checking...
It's one thing to criticize a car on a car forum (which is what he did), and it's quite another thing to personally insult each other over politics (which is what he and others are continuing to do).
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I have a friend that lives in the Palm Springs area that owns a MP4-12C.
On the other hand ... I’ve owned the i8 for about a year with not a single issue.
12C was pretty poor. Their first car, ignoring the F1, so a huge learning curve for the company.

And plenty of us have had i8 issues too.

But I don't imagine Sonny really is buying a McLaren ....or at least not a decent one
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