[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

Exactly, you are the exception to the rule. Kind of like some people saying the coal generated electricity in their state is dirtier than gasoline.

I'm not, but it's not worth the back and forth.

[cbertels]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I can agree that they will have a range of EV offerings, but I disagree that some big EV takeover is looming. The auto industry knows that a culture shift toward EV's will take many decades……if ever (…at least here in America).

The Big Horse-drawn Carriage Industry said the same thing about the fancy horseless carriage.

All kidding aside, I think you're right. The enthusiast marketplace, both OEM and aftermarket, are titans that don't want to see massive shifts quickly. A glacial pace of change would more benefit the major players involved.

[Paladin1]

Originally Posted by cbertels

The Big Horse-drawn Carriage Industry said the same thing about the fancy horseless carriage.

All kidding aside, I think you're right. The enthusiast marketplace, both OEM and aftermarket, are titans that don't want to see massive shifts quickly. A glacial pace of change would more benefit the major players involved.

And an apt analogy. A well developed industry with a universal infrastructure, decades and centuries old, understood by everyone, virtually everyone had one - available to the working man, solid safety record, economical to run and maintain, attractive to the public eye, hundreds of supporting industries.

As opposed to: Expensive beyond belief, extremely limited availability only to the rich, ugly by public standards, offensive to the eye and ear, dangerous, no existing support infrastructure - fuel or roads, expensive to run or repair, almost no supporting industries.

And yet, here we are. Trying, fruitlessly, to find a buggy-whip today. The first electric car in the US, BTW, was developed in 1890.

[DFTBA]

Originally Posted by hugo_nz

I don’t think the 40 or 50 have launch control. It appears to be reserved for the M60.

Explaining why I wrote one of the two If it is about a drag race, both cars should run the best possible way which obviously isn't the case here.

Granted, in real life the ix50 will perform better as I don't think or at least hope anyone uses launch control in daily traffic.

[CaboM4]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Well, I suppose we'll see who I wins this debate over the next decade.

My lady has a BMW 530e. She doesn't have a 220v charger (…although her new home is wired for it, I just need to install the outlet itself), so she plugs into a 110v outlet. To obtain a full charge it take anywhere from 8-10 hours; it'll be 3-4 with the 220v. What she saves at the pump reflects in the increased cost in her electricity bill. Her electricity bill has increased about $200 a month since she began plugging in. She does not have solar panels. Based on her real world use case it is almost a wash. Fortunately she can run on gas so it isn't super concerning, but she will not go EV.

I wouldn't be comparing her current experience charging the 530e on 110. It is completely inefficient and she is overpaying. Not to mention the ridiculously small battery in that car.

That said, the G05 45e I have don't have a significantly larger battery, and before the recent gas price hike, we would fill up Premium gas every 2 weeks, for a monthly fuel cost of around $90, and an increase in home electricity of around $100 a month. This is for daily weekday driving of ~70 miles. Our net decrease in operating expenses was around $150 per month going from full ICE to PHEV ICE.

Once you get her on a 220v charger, she should experience a cost savings in electricity changing nothing in her charging/battery consumption habits.

[CaboM4]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I followed up with her and she's on a mandatory time-of-use plan through SDGE. Because it takes so long to charge, the hours overlap to the highest rate.

Install a 220v level 2 charger, and set the charger/vehicle start charge times for off-peak. She will see a drastic decrease in electricity bill

[CaboM4]

Originally Posted by noushy

We have a X5M comp and should be getting our iX M60 next month will be interesting to compare them.

Noushy

noushy

please do let me know. I do not have a current gen X5M, but had a previous F85, and would be very interested a your X5MC is much improved and quicker than my F85 was. Will be interesting to get your take on the M60. I have one arriving in 30-60 days myself (If it ever gets out of Quality Check purgatory)

[noushy]

Originally Posted by CaboM4

noushy

please do let me know. I do not have a current gen X5M, but had a previous F85, and would be very interested a your X5MC is much improved and quicker than my F85 was. Will be interesting to get your take on the M60. I have one arriving in 30-60 days myself (If it ever gets out of Quality Check purgatory)

Will do mine should be here by August

Noushy

[twinturbomann]

I'd like to know the real world details of what's the miles left before and after these runs. That way you get an idea of the power consumption of the iX.