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Oops, I used brah because I thought that's the language you speak.
I do enjoy this beautiful car everyday and you would too if you had one. Short drag race was what the video was about and I was just responding to your M4 vs i8 track times. It was never meant to even compete with the M4 and the fact that it is competitive in real life situations (unlike track times you posted) makes the i8 truly an outstanding car. I'm so happy such amazing technological development didn't land in your hands Quote:
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But business is littered with the dead bodies of companies with exactly the same characteristics. I think the points raised here are very valid: Tesla is not making money yet and there is still not a clear an exact path to that point. Not that it can't happen, just that there is nothing that say it will yet. Actually I believe in total number of cars sold Nissan Leaf may be ahead. Either way it is also a losing proposition so far for Nissan. Even at the much lower price point, and much less cutting edge technology it loses money. A lot of money. I think the make or break for Tesla is the Model 3. If they can deliver that car in any reasonable time frame and at stated price then they will be something to reckon with. But so far nothing in their history shows that to be true. You are talking to someone who has a Roadster, will not buy a model S, and cancelled a Model X after just waiting way too long. |
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John DeLorean wasn't stupid. Nor was Henrik Fisker. They were visionaries, too, with a proven track record. But building a car company from scratch is not an easy thing to do. Building a car company from scratch that has no clear future to being profitable is not visionary. I'm not sure what it's called. Oh, yeah. It's stupid.
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I am happy to hear you are enjoying your i8.
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Musk is a game changer. Your posts on the matter is what is stupid.
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The Roadster S is a fantastic car...
Monthly Telsa is now outselling Nissan. You are correct though, Nissan has sold more across the board. Quote:
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People can't see between a vision & a hallucination. We all know at this point that DeLorean & Fisker does not hold a candle to Elon.
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Silent but deadly. The i8 is impressive.
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Musk as a game changer is yet to be proven. He really hasn't changed any games. He still remains a visionary...
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Don't get me wrong, I like his vision for sure
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Beyond your talks about Tesla, why this i8 looks ugly
I didn't like this bodykit!
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Amazon may succeed or fail over time based on how the business is run and price competitiveness. But Tesla has to still prove the two basic principles for its survival WHILE not having faced any real competition yet (none of this obviously applies to Amazon). And Tesla has let its time advantage slowly erode. Can you imagine what would happen to Tesla if Audi or BMW came out with a 250 miles electric range car around $50-60K? |
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Also keep in mind that IF electric cars become more common the recharge/infrastructure becomes more of an issue. There would have to be a lot of available slots in a recharge station if 10% of the cars on the road were electric. Part of why I love the i8 is the balance. I can drive electric, and I can go far. I do not like the Volt/REX approach. In some ways the ideal approach would be all electric hydrogen fuel cell. All the benefits of the all electric drive, with the ability to 'refuel' in about 5 minutes. Last edited by Epirali; 05-06-2015 at 07:48 AM.. Reason: added |
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