All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut

Burrcold · 05-11-2022, 08:40 PM

I like the Supra more from those pics.

XutvJet · 05-11-2022, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

I like the Supra more from those pics.

I want the Supra to have the Z's restrained styling, devoid of silly and stupid fake vents, needless aero, and winglets. THAT would be the car for me. I love everything else about the Supra.

Burrcold · 05-12-2022, 06:30 AM

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I want the Supra to have the Z's restrained styling, devoid of silly and stupid fake vents, needless aero, and winglets. THAT would be the car for me. I love everything else about the Supra.

There definitely is a little too much going on with the Supra's styling, but I think the new Z has basically the same silhouette of the old car and a way to squared off grill. I do like the retro rear taillights though. It will probably age better than the Supra, I just think the Supra is more interesting (style, engine, transmission (once the manual is available).

OkieSnuffBox · 05-12-2022, 07:37 AM

The rear of the Supra is great. The front, I go back and forth. The Z is pretty subdued with a nice homage to the 240. But when you put them side-by-side, neither is a particularly "great" looking car.

But few modern cars because of pedestrian crash requirements and everything else.

heavyD^2 · 05-12-2022, 07:59 AM

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There definitely is a little too much going on with the Supra's styling, but I think the new Z has basically the same silhouette of the old car and a way to squared off grill. I do like the retro rear taillights though. It will probably age better than the Supra, I just think the Supra is more interesting (style, engine, transmission (once the manual is available).

Supra is one of those cars that looks smaller and nicer in person. I feel it will age well because there's really nothing else out there that looks like it. I will reserve judgement for this car until I've seen it in person but it looks dated on arrival to me as it can't hide the exact same roofline we have seen for decades with the 370Z and the front end just doesn't look great to me. Even the interior looks old with the circa-2000 door handles and vents. I'm sure Nissan fans will be happy with this car but I just don't find it overly exciting based on the fact it's just a 370Z (a car that wasn't really that good) with a new engine.

Alfisti · 05-12-2022, 09:08 AM

I agree the Z looks little dated and I am a fan of simple styling, something about it .... i dunno.......it's gonna age fast.

stevenopoly · 05-12-2022, 10:07 AM

haha..guess it's all subjective. I think the z is going to age perfectly because of it's simple design, unlike the Supra, which I feel is overly designed.

supra93 · 05-12-2022, 11:02 AM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...-trailer.1109/

AlpineBoost · 05-12-2022, 11:48 AM

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haha..guess it's all subjective. I think the z is going to age perfectly because of it's simple design, unlike the Supra, which I feel is overly designed.

Same here. I never liked the way the MkV looked in pictures or on the road and after really checking it out in person in Atlanta I walked away with a worse impression of it than before. It's really hard to find anything about the exterior that I like and to me it's one of the ugliest sports cars in recent memory.

stevenopoly · 05-12-2022, 12:09 PM

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Same here. I never liked the way the MkV looked in pictures or on the road and after really checking it out in person in Atlanta I walked away with a worse impression of it than before. It's really hard to find anything about the exterior that I like and to me it's one of the ugliest sports cars in recent memory.

Totally agreed. I thought I would like it in person, but wasn't impressed.

supra93 · 05-12-2022, 02:49 PM

Here's a clearer photo.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...-trailer.1109/

G MONEY · 05-12-2022, 03:39 PM

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Here's a clearer photo.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...-trailer.1109/

The 90's Supra's are rolling in their graves at this new one🤮🤮

pikkagtr · 05-12-2022, 04:18 PM

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The 90's Supra's are rolling in their graves at this new one🤮🤮

Considering the last A80 supra for the JDM is 2002 and the 350Z came out in 2002
They are very comparable in chassis age

I'd still take the A80 over this though

3798j · 05-13-2022, 05:17 PM

Was at Imports at Carlisle today...the Z was on display. Absolutely love the look...clean, sharp, understated lines. Great presence.

supra93 · 05-14-2022, 02:12 PM

U.S. Pricing Possibly Leaked in 2023 Nissan Z Review: $40K Base, $50K Performance, $53K Proto

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...3k-proto.1116/

Red Bread · 05-14-2022, 07:02 PM

That pricing would be very good if true. I have a Mk8 Golf R on order, but if I didn't need the backseat, this would be very appealing.

gatorfast · 05-14-2022, 08:04 PM

Pricing sounds about right. 40s into low50s is what I would expect

supra93 · 05-15-2022, 11:06 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...ani-clos.1126/

M3WC · 05-16-2022, 12:03 AM

Pricing is confirmed on Nissan site. $39.9k for base trim is fantastic. But $10k up charge for Perf trim is quite a jump. If only the base trim had the mechanical LSD.

supra93 · 05-16-2022, 12:04 AM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...oto-spec.1127/

M3WC · 05-16-2022, 12:15 AM

I would get the Sport and spend the $10k extra for Perf trim on superior aftermarket parts. LSD, brakes, coilovers. $10k can go far in Nissan tuning scene.

No Boost · 05-16-2022, 03:31 AM

Extra weight and inferior tires hamper it as compared to the BMW. Rubber is easily retrofitted....weight, not so much.

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OkieSnuffBox Major 1803 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: OKC, OK iTrader: (0)	The rear of the Supra is great. The front, I go back and forth. The Z is pretty subdued with a nice homage to the 240. But when you put them side-by-side, neither is a particularly "great" looking car. But few modern cars because of pedestrian crash requirements and everything else.
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Alfisti Brigadier General 6503 Rep 3,032 Posts Drives: 2008 Saab 9-3 Combi Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	I agree the Z looks little dated and I am a fan of simple styling, something about it .... i dunno.......it's gonna age fast.
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stevenopoly Private First Class 236 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 350z Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	haha..guess it's all subjective. I think the z is going to age perfectly because of it's simple design, unlike the Supra, which I feel is overly designed.
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supra93 Colonel 2480 Rep 2,335 Posts Drives: Z4, E500, Supra, RX7 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Dark Green Nissan Z spotted on a trailer https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...-trailer.1109/
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supra93 Colonel 2480 Rep 2,335 Posts Drives: Z4, E500, Supra, RX7 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Here's a clearer photo. https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...-trailer.1109/
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