[cc3]

Dealers selling Roadsters with a few miles for £77k against list £130k ! Can't give these away at present

[Birdland]

They(bmw) did the same here in Norway. I have seen Roadsters with 1-2000 miles going for almost half list price. Technical it’s a used car...

[arijaycomet]

There are a few "left over" new 2019 here in the states that are $175k MSRP and they have BMW-backed incentives. Brings the pricing to around $140k USD -- so similar to what you're talking about there.

That said I still think the sweet spot is a CPO 1-owner off-lease. My 3rd i8 (current car) is a 2016 with ~23k miles. For a 3-year old car (bought in 2019) it was 50% off MSRP, 1yr warranty left + 1yr CPO warranty = 2 years, unlimited miles of warranty.

[pjs]

Originally Posted by cc3

Dealers selling Roadsters with a few miles for £77k against list £130k ! Can't give these away at present

There's a handful under £70k now, getting tempted !

[Birdland]

Originally Posted by pjs

There's a handful under £70k now, getting tempted !

I tempted me! But I am well avare of the fact that the price/value of the Roadster is now changed forever due this “stunt” from BMW!

[Leto1701]

Don't really get what the "stunt" is. Maybe because it is absolutely unusual to pay list price for a car in Germany anyway. No one ever paid more than that for a one day "used" car called "Tageszulassung". In Germany you decide to pay a little more (but not list price) for a car you configured and that is built for you. That's the normal new car buying process. Plus the "Tageszulassung" which is the equivalent to how e.g. people in the US are used to buy from a limited pre-produced set of models that we also have. When I configured my Roadster I could have also bought a 80k€ Tageszulassung from the showroom. Wrong interior color sadly and wrong options.

So all seems to be pretty normal to me

[JasH]

Originally Posted by cc3

Dealers selling Roadsters with a few miles for £77k against list £130k ! Can't give these away at present

A number of us here predicted this a year ago - that Roadster would be massively discounted and then depreciate like a rock.

(Coupe is no better of course.)

BMW like to pump out volume, with no regard for demand. They are a volume manufacturer, period.

[ian_i3S_iX]

Will BMW stopping production in April make values better or worse ?

[fishpond]

Originally Posted by ian_i8_i3

Will BMW stopping production in April make values better or worse ?

I don't think that it will make much difference at all - certainly not in the near term. BMW has stockpiled them through over-production and is finding they just can't sell them... hence the prices are dropping like lead balloons (even on new ones).

[bob330i]

yeah, hoping the depreciation stays similar or drops a bit more. Going to monitor 2019's for the aforementioned single owner, off lease, couple year old, low miles specimen. Not sure if I'll go coupe (wife's preference) or spend a bit more on the roadster.

[Birdland]

Originally Posted by fishpond

I don't think that it will make much difference at all - certainly not in the near term. BMW has stockpiled them through over-production and is finding they just can't sell them... hence the prices are dropping like lead balloons (even on new ones).

Is the “stockpiling them” a rumor or facts?

[JasH]

Originally Posted by Birdland

Is the “stockpiling them” a rumor or facts?

Highly probable, as evidenced by the massive discounting to offload them.

BMW themselves have destroyed residuals on an otherwise excellent car.

[Leto1701]

Originally Posted by JasH

Highly probable, as evidenced by the massive discounting to offload them.

BMW themselves have destroyed residuals on an otherwise excellent car.

Nonsense. The production ends in April and it was hard to get some of those cars (for those who new about it). BMW loses money on every i8 anyway. Value might go up but not short term. Always a gamble. Highest probability for the roadster.

[chris_1M]

Not a chance dealers will be able to get rid of their i8 stock (new cars!) at a decent price. These cars will be heavily discounted and/or extremely attractive leasing fees will be applicable. Obviously these deals will be "sponsored" by BMW.
Curious to see if prices for used i8's continue to fall. Current bottom is at €56K for a 100K miles (160.000km) car.
That's for The Netherlands (Europe).

[Birdland]

Originally Posted by Leto1701

Nonsense. The production ends in April and it was hard to get some of those cars (for those who new about it). BMW loses money on every i8 anyway. Value might go up but not short term. Always a gamble. Highest probability for the roadster.

Here in Norway it’s not possible to order a new i8 Roadster anymore, computer says no! And there are no cars available.

[chris_1M]

That's interesting Birdland.
Try shopping elsewhere in Europe.
I could follow "my" previous loaner i8 roadster from The Netherland, to Belgium (port) and finally popping up in Israel.
I can still control it through BMW Connected ... and yes, that's very tempting

[JasH]

Originally Posted by Leto1701

Nonsense. The production ends in April and it was hard to get some of those cars (for those who new about it). BMW loses money on every i8 anyway. Value might go up but not short term. Always a gamble. Highest probability for the roadster.

Hard to get hold of

So that's why they are massively discounting them.

And yes Roadster might go up.... in 20-30 years time, for a pristine undriven one.

[orion1977]

Ending production will slow down depreciation, but time will tell by how much.