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No ones going to kill anyone lol there are too many rules and regs, too many penalties and someone else has said that Masi has to go, he's the wrong person to be running as race director.
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So do we think if F1 moved back to gravel on the outside of corners than Max would still do these lunging defences or overtakes?
I’d love to see Max use his undoubted talents to race cleanly and fairly like nearly every other driver has managed. He is becoming classless in his driving with others and that’s a real shame. The comments in this thread as so one sided one way or the other but if he just tweaked things more would like him for his talent rather than hate his lack of style. This isn’t racing it’s dodgems sorry but he could and should be soooo much better, such a shame. Crazy race, everyone else has their views on the other incident let’s see what the stewards say they are the ones with the data. |
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This is what Lewis had to say after the race.
"For me, I really had to try and just keep my cool out there, which was really difficult to do," Hamilton told Sky Sports. "I've raced a lot of drivers in my life, in the 28 years, I've come across a lot of different characters. "There's a few at the top which are... yeah, over the limit. Rules kinda don't apply, or they don't think of the rules." When asked to clarify if Verstappen fell into that category, Hamilton agreed, saying: "He's over the limit, for sure. I've avoided collision on so many occasions with the guy and I don't always mind being the one that does that, because you live to fight another day. Which I obviously did." This is something Verstappen needs to learn, and it's the reason the title could be Hamilton's this year.
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Official announcement- it was max’s fault for the crash
Max Verstappen has been handed a 10-second penalty for causing a Turn 27 collision with Lewis Hamilton in the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, plus two penalty points. The reason: "In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration” So Max did break-check Ham. More comments from stewards: "Whilst accepting that the driver of Car 44 could have overtaken Car 33 when that car first slowed, we understand why he (and the driver of Car 33) did not wish to be the first to cross the DRS [line]. However, the sudden braking by the driver of Car 33 was determined by the Stewards to be erratic and hence the predominant cause of the collision and hence the standard penalty of 10 seconds for this type of incident, is imposed." Last edited by kring; 12-05-2021 at 04:58 PM.. |
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Totally pointless penalty to dish out though!
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I'm not even focused on this season lol it's just for entertainment now, I'm thinking about 2022 and the new cars (what aero packages will look like, if wings will still be adjustable or if new wings are needed for different settings, what drs will looks like, how fast cars will be vs. this year, if the cars will be upset going over curbs and if down force will drop off suddenly and cause issues etc).
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Stewards explain Verstappen decision
At turn 21 the driver of car 33 was given the instruction to give back a position to car 44 and was told by the team to do so “strategically”. Car 33 slowed significantly at turn 26. However, it was obvious that neither driver wanted to take the lead prior to DRS detection line 3. The driver of Car 33 stated that he was wondering why Car 44 had not overtaken and the driver of Car 44 stated that, not having been aware at that stage that Car 33 was giving the position back, was unaware of the reason Car 33 was slowing. In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration. Whilst accepting that the driver of Car 44 could have overtaken Car 33 when that car first slowed, we understand why he (and the driver of Car 33) did not wish to be the first to cross the DRS. However, the sudden braking by the driver of Car 33 was determined by the Stewards to be erratic and hence the predominant cause of the collision and hence the standard penalty of 10 seconds for this type of incident, is imposed.
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10 sec penalty. Still keeps 2nd. Eat it whiny ham
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Yeah it is but that’s probably all they could give maybe. Either way I think the team need to really look how they are handling him. He is being amped into these stupid desperate moves at every race now and they need to have some responsibility in that.
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Anybody else think Masi isn't really up to the job?
Another mess really, confusion with Max/Ham and letting him past, offering up a grid swap to RB to see what they thought of it, Lewis double waved flags on the Sat that was an error etc
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Masi is part of Mercedes .
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There are too many rules, a casual fan like myself won't know. I can read, interpret and understand the rules but at the time of watching, I would be confused.
The infraction was the braking and where the braking occurred. Guess it makes sense from a safety perspective, braking that hard in a straight zone probably isn't the smartest idea regardless of strategy. |
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