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3.39 sec 0-60 mph, (3.1 with roll out) 113mph in the 1000ft 11.74 sec qtr mile decelerating through at 108mph. He stated it should be an easy 11.4 second car. And yes, he owned a Model 3P and Plaid. View post on imgur.com Last edited by hotrod182; 01-18-2022 at 03:08 PM.. |
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Traffic Jam assist does not require hands on wheel for BMW. It will auto brake and accelerate up to 40 mph. Driver has to be aware but a camera monitors the driver. There is absolutely no mode for Tesla where hands free driving is a thing.
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Sure if BMW can translate this technological adavnce to real world factors such as 25% faster than Model 3 performance and longer range then I will get BMW next (Not like I never owned BMWs) Testers have only got 186 range out of the i4M50. Keep in mind you are comparing a 2018 car against 2022 MY.
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01-18-2022, 03:50 PM | #28 |
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the BMW i4 M50 has gotten higher than 186miles in range tests on UK cold streets on reviews.
In this test where the M3P is compared to an i4 M50 https://www.elbil24.no/pro/test-tre-...elser/75109027 25 percent Highway, rest is secondary roads and a little bit City : Temperature -6 Celsius (21.2*F) BMW i4 M50 - 380 kilometer (236 miles) Tesla Model 3P - 405 kilometer (252 miles) Difference looks to be 15-16 miles from each other on that test. I'm sure there are others, however 186 miles is the lowest I've seen on an i4 M50 in cold weather. The two are closer in #'s on the road, the BMW simply is astonishing with that 100-200kph time and the Tesla is more nimble/responsive in feel.
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25% advantage/faster. At sub 3 seconds the performance differences are really reaction time differences. For roll on from 60 it looks like the M50 walks a M3P. That's a real world test for passing on the highway. I have owned lots of BMWs, Dodge, Mini, Chrysler, Ford and based on my experience and how I drive I prefer BMW. The only reason to compare a TM3P to an i4 M50 is price and straight line performance. When you start looking at build quality, quality of materials along with repair support and customer experience when a problem does occur; BMW outshines Tesla and they aren't even in the same ballpark. To be honest the fit, finish and quality of a TM3 is surpassed by my Chevy Bolt.
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M50 buyers….do not go for those 20" wheels. |
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In the test above, I was surprised at how little range was lost in the weather he tested compared to EPA estimates. He also predicted about 250 miles real world in summer months which to me isn't a bad trade off consider the i4 M50 overall isn't as efficient and the EPA rated it at 227 miles for the 20" wheel model. If we apply the same 10% to the 19" model, that could mean 300 miles of real world range with what looks to be mostly highway driving in summer months. Bummer that the battery charge test wasn't more eveningly tested where the Taycan and i4 weren't pre-conditioned, but he says he will try to retest in the summer month's so looking forward to his results. His comments about the i4 handling was pretty favorable, heavier albeit agile for its weight and will rocket out of corners. The acceleration delay is a bit odd though, but he did state the acceleration was brutal once the car picked up and shoots forward. |
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Good for up to 40 mph in stop and go traffic. Yes it's in the.options but so is FSD. My comment was not on what a.specific car has but what options you can get. When someone says that Tesla has better tech I tend to call them out because I worked in development of redundant CPUs for auto and also ASAS and ISO26262 (ASIL A-D). Tesla has hyped something they can never deliver. They will not be able to deliver hands off ADAS because they have 8 cameras; three forward up high, two on each side facing forward, two on each side facing rearward and a single rear facing camera. No redundancy in the cameras pretty much negates hands free. BMWs cameras are redundant with radar as a backup. Anyway, details, details.
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i was hoping it was going to be a little faster
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Since BMW uses radar driver assist is available at speeds that exceed what Tesla in capable of with camera only. It's not Super Cruise which works at highway speeds and no hands
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Doesn't seem too far off of a g80 M3 Competition though 100-200kph with this one running 8.16 seconds, not too far off of 8.67. Unless you were talking about 0-100 or 1/4mile, then you can blame a wet surface and grip issues.
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