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      07-15-2017, 05:34 PM   #1
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Talking Pure Impulse Munich Event - i8 in Top Gear

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I attended the Pure Impulse Munich event last week.

I had tried to organise an i8 convoy from UK to Munich. The “convoy” drive there and back was truly hilarious, in the very best traditions of a Top gear race across continents.

We started with at least a dozen cars signed up for the convoy, but they dropped out like flies for various reasons. Some on actually comprehending what it involved i.e. a virtually non-stop “race” from England to Munich, and then back again after stopping in Bavaria on Saturday to drive the mountain roads. I don't blame them! In the end we were just 2 cars, and one guy who decided to “cheat” by flying there. He was therefore nicknamed Clarkson by us. We were all at the utterly awesome PI Finland event together, and knew each other from there.

We used a WhatsApp chat group for the race, and also “Find My Friends” tracking on our iPhones, which resulted in hilarious comments and barbs throughout the trip keeping us entertained. Other i8 owners from the PI Finland trip were following along on the apps, from England, chipping in with comments too. And the chat was very much in the spirit of a Top Gear episode. I was nicknamed “Captain Slow” – completely unfairly of course (I had a passenger, my wife, who insisted on frequent stops!). The other driver was named “Richard Hammond”, which seemed to fit him perfectly.

Results spoiler – Clarkson won the race to Munich.

Disclaimer: no laws, by-laws, regulations, and most importantly speed limits were broken during this event!

I left home at 03:45 to drive to Eurotunnel Folkestone, passing a major crash on the opposing carriageway of the M20 where an articulated lorry had jack-knifed blocking all three lanes and also breaching the central crash barrier into the fast lane on my side! We left Calais at 07:00 local time. The initial drive went well with no real traffic and both Captain Slow and Hammond sticking together. We went through France into Belgium, and then into The Netherlands. We even had a 3 car convoy there with some fun with a Ferrari 458 Italia for half an hour. Then we reached Germany and the unrestricted Autobahn, where Captain Slow gunned it past Hammond, who clearly “took offence” and repaid the compliment by going full power past me. This was great for a brief moment, when my SatNav decided the speed was too much of a shock to its system and decided to go blank for 15 minutes, during which I lost Hammond, and my way, taking a wrong turn. I could see him on my iPhone pulling away – but unfortunately for me, on a completely different road.

I was running on fumes by then so I stopped for fuel, as did Hammond a few minutes later. We tried to link up, but it would have slowed us down, and we were on a tight deadline, with the event bus leaving our Munich hotel at 19:30.

Meanwhile Clarkson insisted on rubbing it in regularly that he had already arrived, and was sipping drinks on his hotel balcony, watching and listening to i8’s roaring around outside! The audience in England were giving us “encouragement” as this went on….including advice to “cut the chatter and get on with the driving”!

An example of the "helpful" messages I was sent by Clarkson:



I informed Clarkson that I had arranged for BMW to give him a diesel 1 series instead of an i8 for Saturday’s driving event. That amused the home crowd and made Hammond and me feel a lot better! Clarkson assured us he would leave to return straight home if they did that.

We each pressed on, but also faced an endless series of roadworks in Germany, and lots of traffic. At times we were stationary, watching our SatNav ETA moving inexorably towards 18:00 and then into the evening hours. This was painful and stressful, and made even more so by Clarkson’s “encouragement” and frequent reminders about how smart he had been to cheat… I mean fly.

By this point Hammond and I were on completely different routes and approaches to Munich, and screen grabs were being shared, with “helpful” comments reminding Captain Slow that Google Maps was predicting a Hammond win. Hammond was approaching Munich from the North, and Captain Slow from the North East. I blamed my SatNav, which of course conveniently ignored the fact that we both had identical cars!





Eventually Hammond arrived with an hour to spare before the 19:30 bus left. I was however still nowhere near Munich, with my ETA showing as 19:00, then 19:15. Eventually I got to Munich, only to hit standstill traffic and an ETA of 19:25. By this point Clarkson, Hammond and the UK spectators were being genuinely supportive as no one wanted me to miss the bus to the evening event at BMW Welt. This was extremely stressful by this point.

The good news is that in the very best traditions of old Top gear, Captain Slow arrived at the hotel just in time, threw his bags into the room and rushed down to catch the bus with just 5 minutes to spare after a mammoth 15 hour journey. I was so very relieved.

We had a Club Tropicana style event at BMW Welt's Bavarie brasserie with its stunning views, and great food and drink, starting with a Bavarian beer for me. After a couple of drinks the exhaustion hit home though.



Saturday morning commenced with over 90 i8’s converging on BMW Welt, and filling the front area to the delight of tourists.



We had some food and a briefing on optional routes for the Bavarian Mountains. Naturally we all picked the longest route to our lunch destination, at Lake Tegernsee. The views were stunning, and our group continued chatting on WhatsApp during it, with the UK audience chipping in with comments. Clarkson did not receive an i8 from BMW, but sadly it was not a diesel 1 series either. True to form he had the most powerful car of the event, in the shape of an X5 M with a twin turbocharged 4.4 litre V8 to our 3 cyclinder 1.5 litre cars. And he was of course being as loud as he possibly could.



The views were simply breataking and the roads were great to drive, although most of us managed to successfully miss waypoints and get lost. In the Bavarian mountains, people just stopped and stared at us. Over 90 i8’s was quite a spectacle. Lovely fast very twisty roads, and we drove them hard where possible. The Bavarian landscapes were stunning, as were the picture postcard houses.















We stopped at Schlossbrennerei Tegernsee to eat in an authentic Bavarian setting. After a delicious lunch, where Captain Slow’s orange juice kept mysteriously disappearing on its way from the bar, Hammond decided it was a good idea to direct Clarkson into the Ladies, assuring him that “Damen” was the Gents, as there were no pictorial or English signs on the toilets at the restaurant.



We then decided to set off as a group for the return drive to Munich, through the fantastic twisty mountain roads. Captain Slow led, with Hammond following, and we allowed the interloper Clarkson in the X5 M to trail behind. Luckily we quickly lost Clarkson, who simultaneously complained about Captain Slow not stopping to wait for him, whilst messaging that he was so fast he was travelling at 125mph! We were full throttle at times, in Sport mode.

BMW had 2 photographers at this spot in Bavaria, who both snapped me as I went past (y)








More importantly, Hammond and I caught up with another i8, and then a couple more groups of i8’s. At one point we were roaring through the fantastic twisty mountain roads in a group of about 10 i8’s. We never saw Clarkson again until Munich, where he was somehow travelling in the opposite direction to me and Hammond!

Then on to the special secret reveal event at a formal gala dinner at the Historic BMW Classic Museum. This was a nice high end event with fine dining. So, let me tell you ALL about what we saw and learned.

[redacted]

Sadly, I had to sign an NDA so I cannot say anything about the car unveiling at all. But I did place an order whilst there.

Even BMW’s Board have not seen it yet, and will do so 2 weeks after us. This truly was a genuine exclusive reveal for us. I guess there will be a press release after that, so I can discuss it only when public. We were the first people outside a small group in the specialist i Division to see it. I will just say there were sharp intakes of breath when it was uncovered, and my jaw hit the floor at how stunningly beautiful it looked from the three quarter view where I was seated.

There were well over 100 of us, from all corners of the world. And top i Division people were there and I chatted for almost 2 hours with them, one to one, asking a lot of questions. The event carried on well after midnight.

We were treated so extremely well by BMW. Half the hotel cost, all food, drinks, transfers and events. Exceptional fine dining and personal tours of BMW Classic museum. The list is too much to mention. This was their biggest ever event for i cars. BMW are excellent hosts and we were treated like VIPs.

Sunday morning involved an early visit to the BMW Historic museum again for a more intimate look at the secret car, followed by a personal tour of the historic BMWs. We were the first group to go as Hammond and I needed to race back to our cars for the marathon journey to Calais, knowing that time was against us.

The transfer back to the hotel was as exciting and entertaining as anything else, with us risking our lives at the hands of our lunatic film buff Bavarian bus driver, whom I shall call Heinz Speilberg. He managed to get us back in one piece all whilst watching Gladiator on his mobile phone, complete with earphones!



I remarked to Hammond that I now planned to read War & Peace whilst driving all the way back to Calais!

Hammond and I rushed back to our cars for the dreaded return drive, knowing that based on our Friday journey times we had no hope whatsoever of catching our Eurotunnel train, with a 21:45 check in. We were going to give it everything we had though, and push our i8's to their limits! We split up immediately as Hammond was already packed and ready to move out. We raced out of Munich and going flat out on the autobahn where possible. The biggest problem was German drivers’ general inability/unwillingness to judge an oncoming car’s speed before jumping in front. The rule seemed to be that they have the right to jump in front of you so long as they indicated and the gap will fit their car!

That limited our speed, although another i8 driver on another autobahn did manage to hit maximum speed.



The great news was that traffic was light on Sunday, with only the frequent roadworks slowing us down significantly. Captain Slow again had to make 5 stops, to Hammond’s 2. However, the i8’s RTTI (real time traffic information) re-routing gave me the advantage this time, by avoiding traffic that caught Hammond. Nevertheless Hammond led all the way, but with his lead ever decreasing.



Most importantly, Clarkson was still stuck in Munich awaiting his flight, which was now seriously delayed. The best part was that we were making such good speed that our SatNav ETA was always showing we would catch our train.

A funny thing happened at a German services. Lots of people stared at the i8 every time, but no one tried to engage me in conversation, unlike in England. Except once. My wife went to the station so I was waiting in the car. Two young German girls who were attracted by the car decided to engage me in a long conversation. Only problem being I speak no German and they spoke no English! However they were chatting away continuously, and gestured to me to open and close my (gull wing) door etc. That went on for a good 4-5 minutes with them speaking continuously to me in German. Me saying “Nein sprechense Deutsch….I only speak English”. Yes I know that is terrible German! It didn’t stop them though and they just kept chatting to me! The part I didn’t mention is that these two girls were aged about 4-5, and their mothers looked on in hysterical laughter, whilst muttering something about “Englander”. It was so funny! Lots of smiles all around.

Eventually Hammond arrived at Eurotunnel, but not having booked his ticket, he was asked for Euro 250 for a single trip (to my pre-booked 59)! This did however give Hammond the opportunity to charge his car whilst making “aesthetic” comments regarding the Tesla next to him, and sending us pictures of him pulling faces!




Captain Slow was naturally better prepared, but this also meant there was little flexibility, when he arrived at the terminal very early at around 19:30. The check in machine however gave an option of a free switch to a 30 minute earlier train. Even better was that the terminal was swamped with Brits returning home on Sunday evening, so the Eurotunnel staff ignored my ticket and simply waved me on to the waiting train, which was right behind Hammond’s.

Best of all, Clarkson’s flight was still delayed and he was now regretting his choice to cheat…I mean fly.

Amazingly Captain Slow arrived back home in Kent at 21:10 local time, with Hammond arriving home (further away) a little later. Clarkson was still at the airport facing the imminent flight curfew. His flight eventually departed with 10 minutes to spare before it was cancelled, and he arrived home in London at 03:00 on Monday.

So who won? Well, the i8 won of course!

We did 1,100 km in each direction, not including the driving around the Bavarian Lakes. And the i8 didn't miss a beat, remaining comfortable throughout. And what an amazing supercar it is, managing to do the whole trip on around 250 of petrol without recharging. Truly impressive, and if we had driven slower that figure would have been dramatically better. I love my i8.


Funny thing is I did not see a single i8 anywhere on my entire journey there, back and around Bavaria (excluding our 90+ event cars). I was amazed as they are built in Germany of course. I saw 2 Ferraris and lots of Porsches, although fewer than in UK. Here I see Ferraris and i8's all the time, especially around home but also in London. Bizarre! There were very few i3's too, and only seen in Munich. There were lots of normal BMWs on the roads in Germany though.

It was an amazing trip overall, and the journey there and back was as much part of the event for us as it was so much fun, and so memorable. We are now planning another race to Leipzig in 6 weeks, for the PI event there. Clarkson and I will use aeroplanes to Berlin and then trains for Leipzig, whilst a surrogate Hammond (again from PI Finland) will drive.

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Man that sounded like a pretty cool event! So this new car is an "i" division car?....
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Nice write up.

Btw - there were only two M cars available and we secured the other beast of the bunch... the M6 Gran Coupe 😉.
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Hustler, I couldn't possibly comment

But you will have noted that top i Division personnel were present and other BMW divisions were not represented. And all the guests were i8 owners
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Nice write up.

Btw - there were only two M cars available and we secured the other beast of the bunch... the M6 Gran Coupe 😉.
Thanks

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160 mph! Nice
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Thanks for the wonderful (and amusing) write up and letting us live vicariously through you . Sounds like you were truly treated to a very special affair. Here's hoping that "it" will be just as enthusiastically received when it is officially unveiled to the rest of the world. Can't wait to hear more once you can talk, as I'm sure you will have tons of details to provide that will be of interest to the i8 community but probably won't be addressed in the press announcement . Hope we don't have to wait too long.
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Thanks for the wonderful (and amusing) write up and letting us live vicariously through you . Sounds like you were truly treated to a very special affair.

Thanks, and I am glad you enjoyed it

It was indeed a very special event, in its entirety

I can't wait for Leipzig now, in 6 weeks.
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Hustler, I couldn't possibly comment

But you will have noted that top i Division personnel were present and other BMW divisions were not represented. And all the guests were i8 owners
i8S!?!? Damn it the thought is KILLING me now


Nevermind, I just realized it's the convertible... lol. But I'm still dreaming they'll have a better performing i8 in the future.

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I do hope that all those who pulled out had their places allocated to others. By the time I received my card the event was fully booked - I'd loved to have attended this.
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Scottt26, can you tell us when the official unveiling to the public will occur?
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OP looks like I had just missed you guys on Saturday afternoon at the Welt.

I was wondering why there were a bunch of i8's outside of the Welt. I was there for another event(you will know about more, soon )...

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Fifer, you are very welcome to join us on the Leipzig event - as is everyone else See other thread.

Dackelone, exciting! Another secret at BMW!! I look forward to the news
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Yes there was, and a variety of custom paint jobs too
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Post Finally!

Finally, they announced this car! I can't believe how long BMW took, given that they showed this car in secret in Munich this summer.

They have however made a few changes since the secret prototype.

The most significant change is the massively better engine deck. It is better contoured, and is black. It was originally flatter, and in body colour, making it look like a boat deck, and much too big.

The Roadster is gorgeous in the metal. Truly stunning

Seats are greatly improved by the way.

I don't like the c pillar badging on both models though. They look cheap and unnecessary.

I agree with others' comments that the 12HP power increase is pitiful.

Overall, though the lack of changes to the original i8 go to show how right BMW got it with the original i8.
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Were there any other details that you received at the Munich event in response to your questions that you can share with us now? I know you had a list of hoped for improvements, some of which have been addressed in the recent press release, but perhaps there are others that were not as significant but might be meaningful to the i8 community.
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Had a huge post, took a break and used some other apps, came back and the app had to load from scratch, losing everything. I hate iOS memory management.

tl;dr - Posting here instead of front page thread since those are always filled with trolls. The reveal didn't have too many surprises, but also no real disappointments either. I didn't hype myself up for a power boost, I knew it wasn't coming. I also didn't set my expectations too high for hard top, although I really really wish it had one.

I think the design looks amazing. No top works so well for this car. The flow behind the seats looks incredible. I love the lower rear deck as a result of incorporating the convertible top. The new hood vent was a nice surprise (for me).

The seats look like a nice improvement, didn't know those were changing. The pillar badging seems cheap and unnecessary. I think you know it's a roadster given the obvious soft top.

The performance boost is obviously offset by the weight, resulting in the same numbers (but an improved coupe). I would just get a tune again and call it a day. Would still be nice if they really unlocked the potential of the eDrive. The updated HUD is also a nice addition. I don't believe I read about that ahead of time.

All in all I think it's just about what I expected. It looks fantastic with the top down (even more so with the doors up for show). Not so great with the top up, since the fabric really sticks out against the futuristic lines of the car. The compromises for a convertible in this seem fairly minimal, and thus it still holds as a strong contender for replacing my current one next summer.
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Were there any other details that you received at the Munich event in response to your questions that you can share with us now? I know you had a list of hoped for improvements, some of which have been addressed in the recent press release, but perhaps there are others that were not as significant but might be meaningful to the i8 community.
It's pretty much what was in the press release, and my comments above.

I agree with Skinrock's comments too.

I'd add that there is no point buying the new model for the performance. An ECU tune to the ICE, and better wheels/tyres will increase performance much more on the current i8.

The 12bhp increase on the new model is down to the increased battery output, in line with comments I originally made. Both new models are heavier, but the coupe only very slightly.

New standard wheels look rubbish to be honest, although they are lighter. But buyers will opt for better ones anyway.

Seats are excellent, and have 2 memory presets (thanks to our complaints). Very comfortable too.

Space behind seats in Roadster is a but of a fudge. Rear seats in coupe give far more storage space.

Central display and the dash are newer versions and higher resolution. The lack of gear indication in HUD is resolved, with the shift lights (thanks to our complaints).

Soft top is pretty good, and I didn't feel I wanted a (heavier) hard top.

Bottom line again is that BMW got the original i8 so very right So little is changed.
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