THE LARGEST BMW 2-SERIES FORUM ON THE PLANET
2Addicts
2Addicts
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
2Addicts | BMW 2-Series forum BMW 2 Series (F22) Forum BMW 2 Series Coupe and Cabriolet (F22/F23) General Forum Launch Control

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-30-2017, 09:02 AM   #1
Zandar
Private
Zandar's Avatar
United_States
43
Rep
74
Posts

Drives: 2017 Midnight Blue 230i
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2017 230i  [0.00]
Launch Control

Has anyone tried this? Just curious, I am not planning on it.

Name:  lc.png
Views: 4149
Size:  47.3 KB
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 09:58 AM   #2
SlickShift
Lieutenant Colonel
SlickShift's Avatar
No_Country
325
Rep
1,804
Posts

Drives: '11 BMW E90 M3 ZCP, '21 X5 ZMP
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (7)

Yes and it's quite fun. There's a surprising amount of wheelspin, so I'm not convinced it's faster than a standard launch with a little brake torquing. You should try it! They wouldn't have made it a feature if they didn't want you to use it (in moderation).
__________________
-Nick
2018 BMW 440i - M Sport, Exec
Glacier Silver Metallic/Coral Red Dakota
Retired: '00 323i, '06 325Ci, '09 135i, '06 Z4M Roadster, '93 525i, '76 2002, '14 X1, '14 M235i, '16 X4, '16 435i
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 10:01 AM   #3
pikcachu
Major General
pikcachu's Avatar
1406
Rep
5,262
Posts

Drives: M235i (F22 Red angel)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: undisclosed

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickShift View Post
Yes and it's quite fun. There's a surprising amount of wheelspin, so I'm not convinced it's faster than a standard launch with a little brake torquing. You should try it! They wouldn't have made it a feature if they didn't want you to use it (in moderation).
It supposedly learns.... if you do it once and there is wheelspin and you try it right after it cools down and is available again it will hold back a little bit more so there is no wheel spin... kind of trying to learn the surface...
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 11:00 AM   #4
bimmerfile
Colonel
bimmerfile's Avatar
622
Rep
2,067
Posts

Drives: 2019 BMW X2 F39
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: GTA, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Never really understood the logic of the manufacturer providing LC or the owner using LC.
It puts undue and unnecessary stress on internal components.
Sure, it's supposed to be O.K. if used in "moderation" (whatever the f*** that is), but if you're buying a lightly used pre-owned - who knows.
__________________
2019 X2
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 11:08 AM   #5
bryan_G01
Lieutenant Colonel
bryan_G01's Avatar
1166
Rep
1,931
Posts

Drives: like i stole it...
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

if you run from a dig, launch control ftw.

Ive done it 100s of times with no issues to the car.

the tires you run will ultimately be the deciding factor.
__________________
www.nybmwcca.org
Current Cars:
1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White
1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic
2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 12:09 PM   #6
3rdcoast228i
Captain
225
Rep
610
Posts

Drives: 2016 228i Msport
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Just so everyone knows, the computer records how many times you use LC. They can and will use that against you come warranty time.
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 04:14 PM   #7
Zoogleboogle
Enlisted Member
United_States
14
Rep
42
Posts

Drives: '18 M240 xDrive (on order)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rdcoast228i View Post
Just so everyone knows, the computer records how many times you use LC. They can and will use that against you come warranty time.
IMO the car is for enjoyment. So, Im going to launch mine a few times after the break in. Is launch control like the GTR in that it voids the warranty? Or is it just a "this may cause undue stress warning" kinda deals because they dont want you using it at every possible moment and they have to replace stuff while still in warranty?
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 04:33 PM   #8
TajoMan
Lieutenant
TajoMan's Avatar
174
Rep
400
Posts

Drives: M240 xdrive, X3M40i
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (0)

I have used several times on empty road. It's quite fun.

I wouldn't worry about stressing power train too much unless you use it at every stop light.
Especially with rwd car, traction is always a limiting factor.

BMW allows LC even in xdrive car, which means they have pretty good confidence about drive train reliability. (they do A LOT of testing)
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 06:14 PM   #9
3rdcoast228i
Captain
225
Rep
610
Posts

Drives: 2016 228i Msport
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoogleboogle View Post
IMO the car is for enjoyment. So, Im going to launch mine a few times after the break in. Is launch control like the GTR in that it voids the warranty? Or is it just a "this may cause undue stress warning" kinda deals because they dont want you using it at every possible moment and they have to replace stuff while still in warranty?
I hear you are good for 3 times... after that its kinda iffy... Suggest do some googling and not take my word for it.
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 06:19 PM   #10
bryan_G01
Lieutenant Colonel
bryan_G01's Avatar
1166
Rep
1,931
Posts

Drives: like i stole it...
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

It written in the user guide.
If they didn't want you to use it, it wouldn't be written about, or be a feature.

It only revs the car to 3k than allows you to launch, if you hold it for too long or if you spin the tires too much in a AWD, it throws a drive train code.
__________________
www.nybmwcca.org
Current Cars:
1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White
1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic
2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic
Appreciate 1
BMWZ41914.00
      07-30-2017, 08:33 PM   #11
3rdcoast228i
Captain
225
Rep
610
Posts

Drives: 2016 228i Msport
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryan_f22 View Post
It written in the user guide.
If they didn't want you to use it, it wouldn't be written about, or be a feature.

It only revs the car to 3k than allows you to launch, if you hold it for too long or if you spin the tires too much in a AWD, it throws a drive train code.
There is something in the warranty about abuse... this is one way they can prove it. I guess it's a use at your own risk thing.
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 10:15 PM   #12
pz619
Brigadier General
3280
Rep
3,257
Posts

Drives: F87 M2C 6MT, Tesla 3
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (1)

I'm not sure a selling feature of the car could be used to deny warranties. As for the gtr, Nissan was sued and they lost. Launch control is covered and they ended up having to do a software update to lessen the likelihood of failure.
Appreciate 1
BMWZ41914.00
      07-30-2017, 10:41 PM   #13
B58togo
Major
810
Rep
1,363
Posts

Drives: M240i
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryan_f22 View Post
if you run from a dig, launch control ftw.

Ive done it 100s of times with no issues to the car.

the tires you run will ultimately be the deciding factor.
I'm sure with X-Drive it's FTW, but with RWD, a 2k brake torque yields better sixty foot times.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rdcoast228i View Post
Just so everyone knows, the computer records how many times you use LC. They can and will use that against you come warranty time.
No they cannot.
__________________
2017 M240i/ ZF8 Pure Drivetrain Solutions Stage 1 & torque converter/xHP/ DAW Ultra Flow/ DS2/ Nostrum injectors/ E40 Doug Newton tuned/ ER DP/ Remus axle back/ BMS intake/ FTP CP/ M Perf LSD
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2017, 11:54 PM   #14
Luddy
Private
Luddy's Avatar
42
Rep
89
Posts

Drives: 2016 M235i xdrive EBII
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: West Chester, PA

iTrader: (0)

I have done it before on a smooth empty back road. Is it hard in the car? Yeah...but it is definitely worth doing at least one time to appreciate what you purchased even more. We bought fun cars, let's enjoy that!

Also unlike what other people said. I don't think this can be used against you from a warranty standpoint. Yes the car remembers how many times you have done it but they also wouldn't put it in the manual and build in various failsafes (car has to be running for so many minutes and driven so many miles before it can be enabled) if they didn't intend for people to use it.

The bigger concern if there should be one is have you put enough wear on parts where you may have to replace something out of warranty.

Last edited by Luddy; 07-31-2017 at 07:14 AM..
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 08:21 AM   #15
Rayscott
Major
376
Rep
1,154
Posts

Drives: BMW 228ix
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Lewes DE

iTrader: (0)

I would rather install a Dinan tuner. I'm thinking it would be safer and not put so much stress on the engine. And, a Dinan tuner won't void the warranty. LC may be a hard habit to break once you try it.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 08:26 AM   #16
BEM-S4
Major General
BEM-S4's Avatar
United_States
4518
Rep
8,942
Posts

Drives: Dinan M235, Dinan Sport Wagon
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayscott View Post
I would rather install a Dinan tuner. I'm thinking it would be safer and not put so much stress on the engine. And, a Dinan tuner won't void the warranty. LC may be a hard habit to break once you try it.
LC is a bit of a gimmick tbh. You use it a couple of times to try it out but the real world times you'd actually want to use it are few and far between.

Def do the Dinan upgrade though totally transforms the car. Fuel economy goes to shit though.
__________________
2022 Macan S
2016 F31 328i xDrive Sport Wagon
2006 E46 330ci ZHP Convertible
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 08:32 AM   #17
BMWZ4
Major General
BMWZ4's Avatar
1914
Rep
5,114
Posts

Drives: '23 X1/'23 Allroad Progressiv
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEM-S4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayscott View Post
I would rather install a Dinan tuner. I'm thinking it would be safer and not put so much stress on the engine. And, a Dinan tuner won't void the warranty. LC may be a hard habit to break once you try it.
LC is a bit of a gimmick tbh. You use it a couple of times to try it out but the real world times you'd actually want to use it are few and far between.

Def do the Dinan upgrade though totally transforms the car. Fuel economy goes to shit though.
I have a stage 3 dinan and frankly I haven't noticed a drop in consumption for city - typically get ~10.2 litres or thereabouts. On the highway, I get about 8.2 litres at 135km/hr.

Seem like reasonable figures to me.
__________________
'11 Z4 30i (retired);'11 X3 28i (retired); '15 M235i Stage 1 Dinan (recalled & crushed); '16 M235i Stage 3 Dinan (retired); '15 X3 28i (retired); '14 328i (retired), 2019 X3M40i (retired); Loaded '18 X1 (retired); Loaded '20 X3MC DG, Black/Tan Merino (retired); Loaded '23 X1 Cape York green and Red/Black interior; '23 Audi A4 Allroad Progressiv
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 09:09 AM   #18
crabu2
Captain
142
Rep
671
Posts

Drives: Truck and ...
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

LC... It sounds like a gimmick. Is it just me or is it just power braking with the computer controlling the max throttle to prevent the car from spinning it's tires in place?
__________________
'20 240ix convertible
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 09:31 AM   #19
Dylan86
Colonel
Dylan86's Avatar
Canada
1330
Rep
2,214
Posts

Drives: F15d msport, F22 m235i
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: GTA

iTrader: (0)

6MT cars have LC too, it's fun but I don't use it often, unless I'm showing someone the car for the first time.

For MT cars, it has to be in "Sport+", simply press the clutch pedal, mat the gas pedal, and release the clutch, when ready. It'll hook right up and go as the nannies are preventing the car from doing a smoke show.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 11:52 AM   #20
bryan_G01
Lieutenant Colonel
bryan_G01's Avatar
1166
Rep
1,931
Posts

Drives: like i stole it...
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

My SA wouldn't give me any shit about using a feature of the car if it broke. He would go to bat for me if BMW NA had to get involved.

It really all depends on your dealer and your relationship.
__________________
www.nybmwcca.org
Current Cars:
1995 M3 Coupe Manual Alpine White
1997 M3 Sedan Auto Cosmo Black Metallic
2018 x3 m40 Auto Grey Metallic
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 11:56 AM   #21
BEM-S4
Major General
BEM-S4's Avatar
United_States
4518
Rep
8,942
Posts

Drives: Dinan M235, Dinan Sport Wagon
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryan_f22 View Post
My SA wouldn't give me any shit about using a feature of the car if it broke. He would go to bat for me if BMW NA had to get involved.

It really all depends on your dealer and your relationship.
This. When my 328d needed a new transfer case and rear diff, the computer system was down and they couldn't tell I had coverage through 75K, car had I believe 59K on it so they assumed no warranty. Just as I was about to flip my lid since all of this information was relayed to me after being informed that the work had already been done they told me they were taking care of the bill since it was "the right thing to do."

Do some repeat business and treat the staff reasonably well - i.e. don't act like a caricature bmw douche on steriods - it's amazing what they can grease through the system to help you if they are so inclined.
__________________
2022 Macan S
2016 F31 328i xDrive Sport Wagon
2006 E46 330ci ZHP Convertible
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2017, 04:50 PM   #22
Zoogleboogle
Enlisted Member
United_States
14
Rep
42
Posts

Drives: '18 M240 xDrive (on order)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryan_f22 View Post
My SA wouldn't give me any shit about using a feature of the car if it broke. He would go to bat for me if BMW NA had to get involved.

It really all depends on your dealer and your relationship.
Yup! Depends on the dealer and your relationship with them. I am lucky enough that my father loves BMW's and has been buying from the same dealer for 30 years.

We have a personal relationship with the owner of the dealer I go to... The service manager told me I should get a tune as it "really wakes the car up" (he has an M235 with jb4 and meth) They aren't a dinan installer, so he didnt suggest them specifically and "We'd cover you don't worry, though we never really have issues with JB4 tunes" when I mentioned going with the JB4 unless people try race gas or custom tunes. Always good to have a tune friendly dealer for sure.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:57 AM.




2addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST