Forum for the entire range of BMW electric vehicles
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW i4 Forum - i430, i440 (G26) EV Forum BMW i4 Forum - M50, eDrive40, eDrive35 (G26) EV Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-03-2022, 08:07 AM   #1
AlexFL
Brigadier General
6576
Rep
4,112
Posts

Drives: BMW X3MC, Audi RS7 (pre-ord.)
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

savagegeese - the i4 M50 is impressively normal

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
Appreciate 0
      05-03-2022, 11:08 AM   #2
Germanauto
Major General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
7934
Rep
5,389
Posts

Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Great review. Seems like one of the better EVs on the market and good for somebody who wants a comfortable and predictable car.

However when it comes to "ultimate driving machine," there are other choices that are superior, including the M340, that too at a lower price.
__________________
Former
-2008 E90 328 black/brown
-2012 Lexus IS250 black/black
Appreciate 0
      05-03-2022, 11:27 AM   #3
Eddien123
Colonel
United_States
1587
Rep
2,519
Posts

Drives: F30 335 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Great review. Seems like one of the better EVs on the market and good for somebody who wants a comfortable and predictable car.

However when it comes to "ultimate driving machine," there are other choices that are superior, including the M340, that too at a lower price.
Yeah he pretty much summed it up. When you're comparing it to bmws other options such as a B58 platform car it's a hard up charge for the I4.
Appreciate 1
Germanauto7933.50
      05-03-2022, 11:28 AM   #4
playswcars
G80 Convert
playswcars's Avatar
Switzerland
906
Rep
295
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW M3 Competition
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

The first down-to-earth i4 review, without trying to hype it up as some M3 killer it'll never be.
__________________
Current: 2021 M3 Competition | RWD | Alpinweiss III | Leather Merino Black |
On Order: 2022 M3 Competition | xDrive | Individual Velvet Blue | Individual Leather Merino Tartufo |
Appreciate 4
      05-03-2022, 11:34 AM   #5
Haywood
I know a thing or 2 about a thing or 2...
Haywood's Avatar
United_States
2757
Rep
3,208
Posts

Drives: E36 M3 Coupe, e39 M5
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: LI, NY

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
2003 BMW e39 M5  [0.00]
1997 BMW e36 M3  [0.00]
Great review because unlike most reviewers, they don't talk about how it's built and what goes into it.

But, many of you are missing the point. The i4 is not supposed to be compared to other BMW ICE vehicles. It's being compared to other electric vehicles. Many of us, including myself, can afford any 3/4 series or M3/M4. We have many reasons why we're choosing to go with the i4. It's a change to electric motors and the future of automobiles. There's plenty of threads to debate the differences between ICE vs. electric.
__________________
2003 Le Mans Blue e39 M5 Dinan S1
1997 Alpine White e36 M3 (the old gal)
2013 Mineral White e92 M3 (sold )
2014 Carbon Black 650i M-sport (sold)
Appreciate 9
      05-03-2022, 12:11 PM   #6
cfm56d7b
Major General
United_States
3962
Rep
8,345
Posts

Drives: 2017 440i Gran Coupe & 2015 X5
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (2)

Excellent review. i4 M50 is generating a lot of interest for all the right reasons.
Appreciate 0
      05-03-2022, 12:35 PM   #7
Montaver
Major
Montaver's Avatar
1354
Rep
1,119
Posts

Drives: G20 330i & 981 Cayman GT4
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Shame the new dashboard is going to be in the 3 LCI. Removing basic physical controls is so counter intuitive. Makes the recently refreshed X3 a lot more appealing.
Appreciate 5
Germanauto7933.50
Cadillac329.50
Vervain190.00
Jklad399.00
thereef5101006.50
      05-03-2022, 01:15 PM   #8
techwhiz1
Captain
542
Rep
825
Posts

Drives: E90 335, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Ca, Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywood View Post
Great review because unlike most reviewers, they don't talk about how it's built and what goes into it.

But, many of you are missing the point. The i4 is not supposed to be compared to other BMW ICE vehicles. It's being compared to other electric vehicles. Many of us, including myself, can afford any 3/4 series or M3/M4. We have many reasons why we're choosing to go with the i4. It's a change to electric motors and the future of automobiles. There's plenty of threads to debate the differences between ICE vs. electric.
That's pretty much my point.
I can buy just about any BMW and definitely any 3,4 or 5M car.

I chose the i4 M50 not as a track car; but my daily driver.

I get blazing performance, handling as good as the E90 with B8 and sport springs that I had (at least on public roads) and I also get carpool lane access.

Is the M3 a better track car? Yes, but it's not a real track car until you put in on a diet and get rid of the rear seats. If you want to call an M3 a track car you better be buying a stripper with no sunroof and most other comfortable amenities.

My E90 was.gping to be my track car unt it got totaled. I also have a Cooper S (2003) that looks like it's going to get upgraded to be my weekend track car.
__________________
Arctic Metallic\CF Splitters,Spoiler, Mirror Covers\LED Tails\LSD\Tinted\Coded\Apex SM10-19"\LED Angel Eyes\Gloss Black Grill\Integrated V1\M-Performance Brakes\Cobb Tuned\xHP Flash ->
Appreciate 4
Haywood2756.50
Nahlem822.50
      05-03-2022, 01:23 PM   #9
TheBingoBalls
Brigadier General
TheBingoBalls's Avatar
Canada
2348
Rep
4,134
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywood View Post
Great review because unlike most reviewers, they don't talk about how it's built and what goes into it.

But, many of you are missing the point. The i4 is not supposed to be compared to other BMW ICE vehicles. It's being compared to other electric vehicles. Many of us, including myself, can afford any 3/4 series or M3/M4. We have many reasons why we're choosing to go with the i4. It's a change to electric motors and the future of automobiles. There's plenty of threads to debate the differences between ICE vs. electric.
With the i4, you want to compare it to a 3er or 4er because IMO, you want to see how close it really is to its ICE counterparts. That's the huge draw for me in wanting to get an i4. Take away the fact it's powered by batteries, it's a BMW through and through.. I don't think this gets spoken about enough. I don't care about the M badge, I don't care about instant torque. I get it, it's an EV and that's what sells but BMW is able to package everything and keep its price close to an ICE 3er/4er. Can't say the same about Mercedes/Audi/Porsche right now since they're offering their EVs over $100k.
Appreciate 3
      05-03-2022, 01:27 PM   #10
i128
Lieutenant
i128's Avatar
Canada
171
Rep
519
Posts

Drives: 340iX (6MT) - X3///M40i
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Canada

iTrader: (1)

Forget Hans Zimmer, let's code in an s65 soundtrack…
Appreciate 2
thereef5101006.50
UC3.00
      05-03-2022, 01:54 PM   #11
Quadruple VANOS
Private First Class
120
Rep
148
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: America

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywood View Post
The i4 is not supposed to be compared to other BMW ICE vehicles. It's being compared to other electric vehicles.
You're fooling yourself if you think the i4 isn't being cross shopped with BMW ICE vehicles. Of course it is…. And it better be. It would be a huge sales disaster if only people strictly shopping for an EV were considering it!
Appreciate 0
      05-03-2022, 02:19 PM   #12
GOLFFRR
GOLFFRR's Avatar
9013
Rep
26,183
Posts

Drives: GOLFFRR cart
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states

iTrader: (4)

nice!
__________________

BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, PM ME FIRST WE CAN HOOK YOU UP!
Jimmy Miller:jmiller@stevethomasbmw.com Cell:805-509-2048
If you have any issues getting a hold of Jimmy M PLEASE PM me, I'm available everyday till 545pm!
Appreciate 0
      05-03-2022, 02:50 PM   #13
techwhiz1
Captain
542
Rep
825
Posts

Drives: E90 335, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Ca, Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by i128 View Post
Forget Hans Zimmer, let's code in an s65 soundtrack…
Yeah, I want an ICE soundtrack!
__________________
Arctic Metallic\CF Splitters,Spoiler, Mirror Covers\LED Tails\LSD\Tinted\Coded\Apex SM10-19"\LED Angel Eyes\Gloss Black Grill\Integrated V1\M-Performance Brakes\Cobb Tuned\xHP Flash ->
Appreciate 1
      05-03-2022, 02:56 PM   #14
techwhiz1
Captain
542
Rep
825
Posts

Drives: E90 335, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Ca, Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywood View Post
But, many of you are missing the point. The i4 is not supposed to be compared to other BMW ICE vehicles. It's being compared to other electric vehicles. Many of us, including myself, can afford any 3/4 series or M3/M4. We have many reasons why we're choosing to go with the i4. It's a change to electric motors and the future of automobiles. There's plenty of threads to debate the differences between ICE vs. electric.
For me it was absolutely a comparison to an ICE BMW. I never considered another EV. If it wasn't a BMW EV; it was BMW ICE.

BMW and nothing else considered. I test drove a couple of M4's after I put my money down. Then the M50 came in and my mind was truly made up.
__________________
Arctic Metallic\CF Splitters,Spoiler, Mirror Covers\LED Tails\LSD\Tinted\Coded\Apex SM10-19"\LED Angel Eyes\Gloss Black Grill\Integrated V1\M-Performance Brakes\Cobb Tuned\xHP Flash ->
Appreciate 3
pjbm44.50
KRS_SN5505.50
      05-03-2022, 05:16 PM   #15
bandwagn
First Lieutenant
bandwagn's Avatar
178
Rep
305
Posts

Drives: 2006 325xi
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Omaha

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 X6M  [0.00]
2006 330Cic  [0.00]
It is essentially and electric 3er (well 4er) - a full EV option without any of the weird quirks for someone who doesn't want a Tesla - it will do fine for those who want to go electric and want the BMW badge
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      05-03-2022, 07:02 PM   #16
cruzer666
Lieutenant
cruzer666's Avatar
United_States
411
Rep
518
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW X6 xDrive40i
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Los Angeles, California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywood View Post
Great review because unlike most reviewers, they don't talk about how it's built and what goes into it.

But, many of you are missing the point. The i4 is not supposed to be compared to other BMW ICE vehicles. It's being compared to other electric vehicles. Many of us, including myself, can afford any 3/4 series or M3/M4. We have many reasons why we're choosing to go with the i4. It's a change to electric motors and the future of automobiles. There's plenty of threads to debate the differences between ICE vs. electric.
I also cross-shopped mainstream available electric vehicles only, no EV vs ICE. I wasn't picky on body style.
- VW ID.4
- Kia EV6
- Tesla 3/Y
- Ford Mach-E
- BMW i4/iX
Appreciate 1
      05-03-2022, 11:08 PM   #17
deutsch100
Captain
deutsch100's Avatar
481
Rep
633
Posts

Drives: i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Calabasas, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzer666 View Post
I also cross-shopped mainstream available electric vehicles only, no EV vs ICE. I wasn't picky on body style.
- VW ID.4
- Kia EV6
- Tesla 3/Y
- Ford Mach-E
- BMW i4/iX
Me too.

I test drove and really considered (and liked) the Mach-E, Kia EV6 (loved it honestly, but the lease payment is stupid!), Mercedes EQS (amazing drive, maddening tech...took 15 mins to figure how to turn Sirius/XM on, hideous styling), the BMW iX (amazing drive, felt like a big i3, unique interior, but the front grille was too prominent for me), Tesla Model 3 (fast, great tech, good range, horrible build quality and shockingly rough ride).

The i4 was love at first sight and drive. I test drove the i4 M50 and was doing paperwork in 15 mins. To me, it is THAT good!!!!
Appreciate 3
Aalfred106.00
cruzer666410.50
pjbm44.50
      05-04-2022, 12:02 AM   #18
Aalfred
Private First Class
United_States
106
Rep
117
Posts

Drives: X3 M40i
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Milwaukee,WI

iTrader: (0)

Based on these reviews, maybe I should lease my car instead of financing this. Although, if Im paying $1100 /month for 3 yrs, thats close to $40K I pay in 3 yrs plus added cost upfront on the lease which might come up to 45K. I guess the drop in value might be the same if you finance or lease this car...either way, you are gonna lose money
Appreciate 1
      05-04-2022, 01:52 AM   #19
///Mangler
Captain
251
Rep
779
Posts

Drives: E30 M3 Darth Vader Trackcar
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SEC

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
1991 E30 M3  [0.00]
2000 E39 M5  [9.00]
2000 E39 M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aalfred View Post
Based on these reviews, maybe I should lease my car instead of financing this. Although, if Im paying $1100 /month for 3 yrs, thats close to $40K I pay in 3 yrs plus added cost upfront on the lease which might come up to 45K. I guess the drop in value might be the same if you finance or lease this car...either way, you are gonna lose money
So why not drop $40k on a car that you can drive for those 3 years, that actually goes up in value?

That's what I do. The hell with 40% depreciation, of a 2022 EV, over 3 years. If I pick the right one, I'll gain 40% if the value, not lose 40% of a new cars cost. Damn. Crazy.

Give me a mint, low option, maint record E36/46/90 ///M car and I'm good for 3yrs, and will make money on the $40k. Turn around in 3yrs and do it again. Better driving experience. Don't try the warranty argument, I wrench, and will handle anything that comes up. 😉

T
Appreciate 1
Aalfred106.00
      05-04-2022, 08:42 AM   #20
techwhiz1
Captain
542
Rep
825
Posts

Drives: E90 335, E70 X5
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Ca, Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aalfred View Post
Based on these reviews, maybe I should lease my car instead of financing this. Although, if Im paying $1100 /month for 3 yrs, thats close to $40K I pay in 3 yrs plus added cost upfront on the lease which might come up to 45K. I guess the drop in value might be the same if you finance or lease this car...either way, you are gonna lose money
A car is a mobile depreciating asset.
This is the rule, not the exception.
There are special cases times when this is not true.
__________________
Arctic Metallic\CF Splitters,Spoiler, Mirror Covers\LED Tails\LSD\Tinted\Coded\Apex SM10-19"\LED Angel Eyes\Gloss Black Grill\Integrated V1\M-Performance Brakes\Cobb Tuned\xHP Flash ->
Appreciate 1
      05-04-2022, 09:18 AM   #21
deutsch100
Captain
deutsch100's Avatar
481
Rep
633
Posts

Drives: i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Calabasas, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aalfred View Post
Based on these reviews, maybe I should lease my car instead of financing this. Although, if Im paying $1100 /month for 3 yrs, thats close to $40K I pay in 3 yrs plus added cost upfront on the lease which might come up to 45K. I guess the drop in value might be the same if you finance or lease this car...either way, you are gonna lose money
...and god forbid you have a bad accident that results in a lot of body work, but the car is not declared a total loss, if you bought the car you now will no longer have a clean title and Carfax can have a report of the accident and work done.

If you lease, at the end...you just turn the car back in and the bank holding the lease is stuck with the damaged car.

We have gone thru at least 50+ cars in the last 20 years, and two times we bought. Never again! Also, with leasing you are not paying all the tax up front! Of course if you KNOW you are going to keep the car a long time and you don't care about an accident on the title, then buy!
Appreciate 1
Aalfred106.00
      05-04-2022, 09:21 AM   #22
deutsch100
Captain
deutsch100's Avatar
481
Rep
633
Posts

Drives: i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Calabasas, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by techwhiz1 View Post
A car is a mobile depreciating asset.
This is the rule, not the exception.
There are special cases times when this is not true.
1000% techwhiz!!! This past year is only the 2nd time in over 25 years of us buying/selling/trading cars where we have had multiple vehicles with equity.

Everyone should plan on every car depreciating, and never count on making money. While it can happen, it is beyond out of any kind of norm!
Appreciate 1
Aalfred106.00
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:17 AM.




bmw
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST