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      01-13-2023, 03:07 AM   #1
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Backroad range test - iX xDrive50 achieves 650km with 20km range left!

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650km with 20km range left. This is insane!
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      01-14-2023, 01:48 PM   #3
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That is pretty incredible. His video at the end shows the range at various speeds (200-225 miles) at 87 mph. Thatís quite the difference!

Temperature looked ideal. Hard to say if there was an advantage from topography as it wasnít a round trip. But that can also have an impact even if itís just slight. But again very impressive numbers.
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I can totally see this.

When I am going in the 30-45mph range, (his test is 60km/h average) I far exceed the range rating, especially if its good weather and conditions.
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I can totally see this.

When I am going in the 30-45mph range, (his test is 60km/h average) I far exceed the range rating, especially if its good weather and conditions.
On the contrary, if youíre driving 85+ your range goes to ****. Didnít take me long to realize this on the 3 1/2 hour journey home from the dealership.
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On the contrary, if youíre driving 85+ your range goes to ****. Didnít take me long to realize this on the 3 1/2 hour journey home from the dealership.
Upside of northeast traffic & old narrow winding highways is that itís almost impossible to hit 80 let alone 85 anywhere i drive 99% of the time. If I can cruise at 70-75 for 45 minutes at the far end of some trips, off hours, Iím lucky haha.
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Upside of northeast traffic & old narrow winding highways is that itís almost impossible to hit 80 let alone 85 anywhere i drive 99% of the time. If I can cruise at 70-75 for 45 minutes at the far end of some trips, off hours, Iím lucky haha.
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Pretty realistic with OEM aero wheels and ideal temps. My real world range over 16k miles is 210 miles in the winter with my 20Ē winter set (non-aero), 230-250 miles in regular SoCal weather on my 22s (non-aero), and about 260-270 on my OEM aero 21s.

Really depends on speed, elevation, temps, wheels (aero or not)/tire setup, and wind

1. Speed: Many of us in CA/NV/AZ/TX/UT/ID have speed limits at 70-80mph which means 85-95mph realistic traffic speeds so we get less range. We get it that the Northeast is slow and you get better range.

2. Elevation: You obviously lose range going on uphill drives (eg. Vegas-SLC) and get more range going downhill.

3. Temps: You lose 20-35% range in the cold (below 40F) and itís worse if you run the heaters (seats @1%/hour and the blowing heater at 3-7%/hour)

4. Wheel/Tire setup: You lose 20% ish range without aero wheels. You lose 5-10% with wider tires or non-LRR/EV tires.

5. Wind: Itís a crapshoot but if youíre against it Iíve seen <1.7mi/kWh and if itís a tailwind, you barely notice it.

Youíre never going to use the ďfullĒ range of your car. Iíve done 100% to <2% at a charger but obviously not recommended. Effective range is 150 miles in winter and 200 miles non-winter between charges.
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My range is easily over 300 miles in my m60 when the weather is above 50
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Pretty realistic with OEM aero wheels and ideal temps. My real world range over 16k miles is 210 miles in the winter with my 20Ē winter set (non-aero), 230-250 miles in regular SoCal weather on my 22s (non-aero), and about 260-270 on my OEM aero 21s.
Hmm the 22ís I have, have longer range than the 21ís according to BMW Ö I see 310 miles in summer and 250 in winter.
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Well even though the Tesla Model X long range has a higher EPA rating than the ix. Real world testing by Edmunds showed the opposite to be true:

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/ele...nds.html#chart
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The EPA needs to get their act together - consumers need consistent and accurate range numbers, obviously.

This chart helps, too.
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Pretty realistic with OEM aero wheels and ideal temps. My real world range over 16k miles is 210 miles in the winter with my 20Ē winter set (non-aero), 230-250 miles in regular SoCal weather on my 22s (non-aero), and about 260-270 on my OEM aero 21s.

Really depends on speed, elevation, temps, wheels (aero or not)/tire setup, and wind

1. Speed: Many of us in CA/NV/AZ/TX/UT/ID have speed limits at 70-80mph which means 85-95mph realistic traffic speeds so we get less range. We get it that the Northeast is slow and you get better range.

2. Elevation: You obviously lose range going on uphill drives (eg. Vegas-SLC) and get more range going downhill.

3. Temps: You lose 20-35% range in the cold (below 40F) and itís worse if you run the heaters (seats @1%/hour and the blowing heater at 3-7%/hour)

4. Wheel/Tire setup: You lose 20% ish range without aero wheels. You lose 5-10% with wider tires or non-LRR/EV tires.

5. Wind: Itís a crapshoot but if youíre against it Iíve seen <1.7mi/kWh and if itís a tailwind, you barely notice it.

Youíre never going to use the ďfullĒ range of your car. Iíve done 100% to <2% at a charger but obviously not recommended. Effective range is 150 miles in winter and 200 miles non-winter between charges.
This is what scares me a bit. Iím not puttering around town all the time and while doing over 200 miles in a day, or even 150, often doesnít happen the fact that youíre charging more each day/week is costing you money far beyond what I think most realize it isÖbut still cheaper than gas. IDK Iím all over the map with these high end EVís. Love them some days and think bad fianacial decision the next. Not to mention the iPhone fearÖbattery and tech quickly making current offerings obsolete.
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Well even though the Tesla Model X long range has a higher EPA rating than the ix. Real world testing by Edmunds showed the opposite to be true:

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/ele...nds.html#chart
Cool, but they need to get the m60 on that list
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      01-16-2023, 10:15 PM   #15
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The EPA needs to get their act together - consumers need consistent and accurate range numbers, obviously.

This chart helps, too.
very similar to a range chart for just about every ICE car I've owned
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when you drive an EV you are trying to go as slow as possible. what's the point of paying for these things. i love them around town, start stop traffic. they are amazing!

i've put in orders and then cancelled for tesla 3, tesla Y, kia EV6 ...

in that time i have bought an Audi S4, M340, M550! (and an old nissan leaf to replace my old nissan leaf)

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when you drive an EV you are trying to go as slow as possible. what's the point of paying for these things. i love them around town, start stop traffic. they are amazing!

i've put in orders and then cancelled for tesla 3, tesla Y, kia EV6 ...

in that time i have bought an Audi S4, M340, M550! (and an old nissan leaf to replace my old nissan leaf)

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Drive as fast as you want. I for one donít want tickets lol
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very similar to a range chart for just about every ICE car I've owned
Range chart for ICE would be mirror image up to 80 mph or so and much less variable. More efficient at higher speed.
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Speed is such a huge factor in EVs.
I have done some recent local road drives here in 35F/25F with windchill weather WITH heat set to 69-70F, sports mode on, and because I was only doing ~40mph, my consumption was still only about ~35kWh/100mi.

So that would put me at 300mi for 100% range, in local road, heater-on, sports-mode, winter driving.

Even in highway driving 55-75mph during winter holidays, where it was firmly below 30F I found I was getting ~285mi for 100% range. Really not bad against the spec of 320mi range for the car.

Because Tesla overstates range to start with, I found my winter range in my allegedly 310mi Model 3 to look a lot more like 240mi.

So on paper while the iX appears to have same/worse range than a Model 3, in reality most will find it better. There was a brief sweet spot in mid-summer for 2 weeks where I could, in just the right traffic conditions, just about meet my Model 3 spec range.

Meanwhile I met & exceeded the iX spec range all fall, and have only dipped below since November.

I also find that the iX seems to be less sensitive to cold soaked batteries than the Model 3 was, or at least I have not left it out in winter cold long enough to trigger it yet my first winter, TBD.
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agree with a lot of what has been posted in this thread already. Temp/speed huge factors. Still though for me I need that charging infra to be a little more in order for it to work for me personally in my neck of the woods. I just still see that as one of the bigger issues with more people making the switch..I know I post that all the time, but fr me its true.
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very similar to a range chart for just about every ICE car I've owned
My tow vehicle (2500HD) gets 18mpg @ 45 mph and 8mpg @ 74 mph.

Same. It's all relative.
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Agree on charging infra. It is pretty good in my immediate 800 mile radius in the sense that there are multiple opportunities to charge close together and Iíve never not been able to take a road trip without panic (third year with an EV). However the confidence isnít that high that it will just charge when you plug in, you always wonder if you picked the right stall or will need to move over one.

Aside from that, give me a car that can comfortably do 2-3 hours of driving at a time and stop for 30 minutes and Iím more than happy road tripping.
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