[moesess34]

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The iX did pretty well in this

[VirtualGuitars]

I can’t watch any more videos from these clowns. They talk too much and love playing on their walkie-talkies. How can anyone take them seriously?

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by moesess34

The iX did pretty well in this

I watched it although i skipped most of the video to get to the point.

I wish they hadn't added those slow miles circling around a parking lot as they are not the equivalent of the miles done at 70mph.

Their results table was miscalculated. I believe all the percentages are wrong.
The BMW went 303 out of the claimed 380 which is 79.7%, not 82%.
I believe the others are wrong as well.

[moesess34]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

I watched it although i skipped most of the video to get to the point.

I wish they hadn't added those slow miles circling around a parking lot as they are not the equivalent of the miles done at 70mph.

Their results table was miscalculated. I believe all the percentages are wrong.
The BMW went 303 out of the claimed 380 which is 79.7%, not 82%.
I believe the others are wrong as well.

Way to much math for me lol it’s impressive that the ix still gets that much range in cold weather. I’m pretty sure no other large ev had better range

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by moesess34

Way to much math for me lol it’s impressive that the ix still gets that much range in cold weather. I’m pretty sure no other large ev had better range

Well the thing is in truly cold weather the predicted range goes way lower than that.

As an example, my wife went to work this morning. It is -18C(-0.4F) right now. The car is sitting at 75% now showing an estimated 258km (161miles) of range. Do the math and you get that 100% is 344km (215 miles). For daily driving, it is more than enough. But if I had to do a 600km drive, this amount of range would feel inadequate to me and would likely force me to make at least one extra stop (if not two) vs what I would normally do with a gas car.

[hugo_nz]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

I watched it although i skipped most of the video to get to the point.

I wish they hadn't added those slow miles circling around a parking lot as they are not the equivalent of the miles done at 70mph.

Their results table was miscalculated. I believe all the percentages are wrong.
The BMW went 303 out of the claimed 380 which is 79.7%, not 82%.
I believe the others are wrong as well.

If you watched the video you would notice they mention the IX is on the 22s which reduces the range to 369mi, which makes the 82% figure correct…

[NathObeaN]

I do find it funny that people have a range obsession with EVs. It’s mostly FUD from my experience. Having owned an EV for a while now and done a lot of long distance journeys, I never even think about range anymore (admittedly it’s a Tesla, but still). I get more range anxiety when driving the M2

[Germanauto]

I miss when car comparison tests generally focused on which is the most fun/engaging to drive.

Nowadays it's a bunch of EV range/charging time tests and meaningless 0-60 runs.

Bah humbug.

[imacyclopath]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

Well the thing is in truly cold weather the predicted range goes way lower than that.

As an example, my wife went to work this morning. It is -18C(-0.4F) right now. The car is sitting at 75% now showing an estimated 258km (161miles) of range. Do the math and you get that 100% is 344km (215 miles). For daily driving, it is more than enough. But if I had to do a 600km drive, this amount of range would feel inadequate to me and would likely force me to make at least one extra stop (if not two) vs what I would normally do with a gas car.

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I noticed the same thing. In January there were some cold day (-20C/-4F) which makes a difference, especially for shorter drives. Once the car warms up, even if it's cold, the consumption improves. I had between 2-4 Km/kWh for most of the month. I took one 328 km (205 miles) drive to the mountains in -10C/14F that used 70% of the charge, giving 468 km (290 miles) for a full charge. Currently I'm at 62% with 235Km predicted range after a series of short drives in cold weather.

[G30M]

the only car i'm interested is the EV6 with heat pump ... why didn't they include that !

[TheBingoBalls]

I’m glad something like this finally comes out. Everyone talks about range, range, range. Generally speaking, the bigger the battery, the more theoretical range you’re going to get but no one talks about efficiency.

The fact that BMW tested 82% of its estimated range is pretty impressive.

[sor]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

I’m glad something like this finally comes out. Everyone talks about range, range, range. Generally speaking, the bigger the battery, the more theoretical range you’re going to get but no one talks about efficiency.

The fact that BMW tested 82% of its estimated range is pretty impressive.

Yeah, and it generally has tested over 100% of its range if you take cold weather out of the equation. Not uncommon for forum members and reviewers to report getting 330+ miles on a car rated for 280.

Even in the cold, if I prewarm the car I can get most of the EPA rating. It’s the short trips where you spend a good chunk of energy heating up that kill it.

[P1]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I can’t watch any more videos from these clowns. They talk too much and love playing on their walkie-talkies. How can anyone take them seriously?

Most of these YouTube videos are watched by teenagers, not adults.

The only reason the content is created is for views, follows and comments.

They don't care about quality of the content. It's about cranking out as much as possible.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by P1

Most of these YouTube videos are watched by teenagers, not adults.

The only reason the content is created is for views, follows and comments.

They don't care about quality of the content. It's about cranking out as much as possible.

You’re absolutely right. It drives me insane when you open a video with a catchy title only to find out that 80% of it is absolute garage in the beginning. And these guys are no exception. Plus, there’s not much science to their tests. Although it might be entertaining for some, I take everything like this with a grain of salt.

[Paladin1]

The two takeaways are 1) cold weather reduces range - in everything, and 2) charging infrastructure sucks - everywhere. But we knew that already.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by Paladin1

The two takeaways are 1) cold weather reduces range - in everything, and 2) charging infrastructure sucks - everywhere. But we knew that already.

Nailed it! You should create a video saying precisely that. Now that would be worth watching.

[GOLFFRR]

def agree charging network is a big issue

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by hugo_nz

If you watched the video you would notice they mention the IX is on the 22s which reduces the range to 369mi, which makes the 82% figure correct…

As I mentioned, i did skip ahead cause the video was too long for me.
He did mention the lower range of the BMW due to the wheels, did he do the same for the others?i rewatched a few segments and he seemed to only do it for the BMW, but I admit that I still didn't watch the entire thing.

You are correct, and this is likely the same with the other cars but then they shouldn't have plastered the range numbers on screen if they weren't the ones that applied to the cars they had available for their test.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by sor

Yeah, and it generally has tested over 100% of its range if you take cold weather out of the equation. Not uncommon for forum members and reviewers to report getting 330+ miles on a car rated for 280.

Even in the cold, if I prewarm the car I can get most of the EPA rating. It’s the short trips where you spend a good chunk of energy heating up that kill it.

The more data that becomes available for these BMWi cars, the more I think the i4 eDrive30 is even a better buy now. If these results being very efficient are even close to what’s been reported, the i4 seems like a a solid EV and BMW overall especially when compared to a Tesla Model 3 for my uses.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

I miss when car comparison tests generally focused on which is the most fun/engaging to drive.

Nowadays it's a bunch of EV range/charging time tests and meaningless 0-60 runs.

Bah humbug.

Seriously. It feels like every other headline is another range test… zzzzzzzzz

[Longbloke]

Interestingly, South Korean Anti Trust regulator has imposed a $2.2million fine on Telsa for misleading customers about the vehicle range in low temperatures.

[hugo_nz]

Originally Posted by ggalanis

As I mentioned, i did skip ahead cause the video was too long for me.
He did mention the lower range of the BMW due to the wheels, did he do the same for the others?i rewatched a few segments and he seemed to only do it for the BMW, but I admit that I still didn't watch the entire thing.

You are correct, and this is likely the same with the other cars but then they shouldn't have plastered the range numbers on screen if they weren't the ones that applied to the cars they had available for their test.

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I agree though that they should use the claimed range for the specified car rather than the general model. But then again…it’s only CarWow