[grouxp]

Hello all,

A few months ago, I bought a 2019 640i GT -- my first BMW -- and I love it.

It only has 30K miles but looks like it will be needing new tires soon.

It currently has:

245/45R19 98Y -- on the front
275/40R19 101Y -- on the rear

I'm not into driving fast & sporty any more (I'm too old for that); I'm into a smooth, soft, quiet ride.

What tires would you recommend?

Many thanks in advance for your feedback!

[StradaRedlands]

I will always recommend Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4, just great tires for me.
Conti DWS 06 is a good choice if you want to save a little $$$, but if it's close, go with the AS4.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by grouxp

A few months ago, I bought a 2019 640i GT -- my first BMW -- and I love it.
It only has 30K miles but looks like it will be needing new tires soon.
It currently has:
245/45R19 98Y -- on the front
275/40R19 101Y -- on the rear

I'm not into driving fast & sporty any more (I'm too old for that); I'm into a smooth, soft, quiet ride.
What tires would you recommend?

Since you live and drive in no-snow Florida, I would go with the best summer performance tires you can get. Not for driving fast & sporty, but for maximum safety, agility, and enjoyment of your ride.

Therefore, if they are available in your sizes, I would recommend getting a set of Micheline Pilot Sport 4S tires. If not, Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

HTH,
a

P.S.: If you are on a budget, keep an eye out for Conti ExtremeContact Sport 02 4 for price of 3 sales. Almost as good as Michelin PS4S's.

[TheStoic]

Another vote for Micheline Pilot Sport All Season 4. Have them now and they are more than good enough, cause I'm not driving at 100% on the street. I think they should last pretty long.

I had the Pilot Sport 4S before these and realized I don't need them. They are good but I don't corner at 100% all that often and they didn't last that long.

[slilley]

Originally Posted by afadeev

Since you live and drive in no-snow Florida, I would go with the best summer performance tires you can get. Not for driving fast & sporty, but for maximum safety, agility, and enjoyment of your ride.

Therefore, if they are available in your sizes, I would recommend getting a set of Micheline Pilot Sport 4S tires. If not, Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

Hmm, you didn't read the OP's description of what he was looking for. PS4S are way more hard-core than the OP is looking for. So another vote for Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 tires. I've had the A/S 4 tires (and the A/S 3 that came before them) on several of my daily drivers, and they are a great all-around tire! Even autocrossed on them once, when I was in-between fun cars.

Now, if the OP had said he plans to do autocross or aggressive canyon driving, then I'd agree that the PS4S tire would fit the bill perfectly. My Cayman came from the factory on those tires. I burned through them in a season of track driving, and I'll probably return to them after two seasons running Cup2 tires (new tires on the rear annually). I'm not going to the track enough to justify staying on the Cup2 tires, which are way worse in the cold and rain of northeast PA.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by slilley

Hmm, you didn't read the OP's description of what he was looking for. PS4S are way more hard-core than the OP is looking for. So another vote for Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 tires. I've had the A/S 4 tires (and the A/S 3 that came before them) on several of my daily drivers, and they are a great all-around tire! Even autocrossed on them once, when I was in-between fun cars.

Now, if the OP had said he plans to do autocross or aggressive canyon driving, then I'd agree that the PS4S tire would fit the bill perfectly. My Cayman came from the factory on those tires. I burned through them in a season of track driving, and I'll probably return to them after two seasons running Cup2 tires (new tires on the rear annually). I'm not going to the track enough to justify staying on the Cup2 tires, which are way worse in the cold and rain of northeast PA.

Most don't buy a BMW for just bumping around on a Sunday drive, even an older guy gets the urge to OFI I'm gonna find a quiet road area and shake off the cobwebs

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by grouxp

Hello all,
I'm not into driving fast & sporty any more (I'm too old for that); I'm into a smooth, soft, quiet ride.

I would suggest looking at Grand Touring tires over UHP all seasons or summer tires that other folks are suggesting. They'll last longer, be quieter and more comfortable and hold better to pot holes and curbs. You will only be sacrificing steering feel and ultimate grip, which sounds like you are not interested in and will not utilize.

[Josh-PA]

I'm a big supporter of the Continental DWS, especially for your application. They have good driving performance, are quiet, excellent in the rain and acceptable if you get any cold weather. I have had a few sets of them now on multiple BMWs and been extremely satisfied. If you don't need the cold performance, the DW version is a great summer performance tire that is a little softer and quieter than the Michelin (which seems like a trade off you'd appreciate for your use case). It also has really great wet road/rain performance.

[No one]

"All season" tyres won't do well in hot climate neither performance nor longevity wise. Mind your season.

[NSXR]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

I would suggest looking at Grand Touring tires over UHP all seasons or summer tires that other folks are suggesting. They'll last longer, be quieter and more comfortable and hold better to pot holes and curbs. You will only be sacrificing steering feel and ultimate grip, which sounds like you are not interested in and will not utilize.

I agree with this. OP needs a true Summer, GT tire. Unfortunately, there are only 5 tires on TR in that category, 2 of which are run-flat's (re: trash), and the very best of the last 3 (Conti EC 6Q is very new and un-tried).

This forces me to recommend the Michelin Cross Climate2, and as a bonus the price is decent with the rebate.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ggered%20Tires

[No one]

Originally Posted by NSXR

OP needs a true Summer, GT tire.

This forces me to recommend the Michelin Cross Climate2, and as a bonus the price is decent with the rebate.

Michelin CrossClimate2 isn't a "true summer", it's an advanced(?)/promoted "all season".

[BeEmVe]

As the OP is in Florida I would suggest a summer tire that performs well in the rain. That is probably the OP's biggest climate hazard.

At the same time the OP does not mention where in Florida nor the road trips they might go. Which might dictate an all season tire.

We like Michelins

[NSXR]

Originally Posted by No one

Michelin CrossClimate2 isn't a "true summer", it's an advanced(?)/promoted "all season".

Right, just what I said; the CC2 isn't a GTS tire, it's an A/S. Look them up.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by StradaRedlands

I will always recommend Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4, just great tires for me.
Conti DWS 06 is a good choice if you want to save a little $$$, but if it's close, go with the AS4.

Contis > Michelins. The Contis will have the same ride, handling, noise, comfort, as the Michelins but will cost a good deal less & last longer. I've had both many times on several different high-performance and not as high-performance, but sporty vehicles. I'd choose the Contis every time.

New Conti DWS 06 on my M2

[grouxp]

Thank you all!

Unless someone wants to talk me out of it (please, don't be shy), I'm inclined to stick with runflats because (1) I'm no longer young and am therefore not inclined to change a flat in the Florida heat and/or summer rain and (2) I'd have to buy a jack, spare wheel & tire, and would lose most of my hatchback space.

So, that said, Costco offers the following runflats that would fit:

- Michelin Primacy 3 ($1,493 installed)

- Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT ($1,738 installed)

Any thoughts on either of those, or am I just plain stupid to stick with runflats? Or, is there a better runflat I should get elsewhere? (I don't have to buy from Costco; am just used to buying tires there.)

Thanks again; I really appreciate you BMW veterans helping out this newby!

[Mavus]

Mich Primacy 3 is fine for general driving

stick with Mich or Conti

[DanG]

Get non runflats and an inflation kit. This will solve almost any common problem and the non runflats have a much better ride.

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Tools/BM...102333674.html

[StradaRedlands]

Originally Posted by DanG

Get non runflats and an inflation kit. This will solve almost any common problem and the non runflats have a much better ride.

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Tools/BM...102333674.html

That kit ^^^^ plus AAA plus a nice set of Pilot Sports and you're good to go!

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by grouxp

Unless someone wants to talk me out of it (please, don't be shy), I'm inclined to stick with runflats because (1) I'm no longer young and am therefore not inclined to change a flat in the Florida heat and/or summer rain and (2) I'd have to buy a jack, spare wheel & tire, and would lose most of my hatchback space.

Do what makes you happy, but RunFlat tires are a marketing placebo.

The ~50 mile driving radius on deflated RFT sidewall only has value if you NEVER ever road trip AND ride on popular and cheap tires that most tire shops have in their inventory.
The last time I had a flat was on a road trip from NJ to Florida. 50 miles would have gotten me absolutely nowhere desireable, but a Dynaplug tire patch kit + sealant kit got me back on the road in under 10 minutes.

No jack or spare wheel required (car had a worthless donut with similar ~50 miles range).
I carry Dynaplug + sealant inflator kit in all my cars.

Originally Posted by DanG

Get non runflats and an inflation kit. This will solve almost any common problem and the non runflats have a much better ride.

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Tools/BM...102333674.html

Agreed, but recommend this $60 tire repair and inflator kit instead.
I've used it twice (across 4 cars), and it worked both times. The sealant bottles are replaceable by themselves. That is handy, as all kits have sealant expiration dates.

Plus it's currently on sale from Griot's:
https://www.griotsgarage.com/12v-tir...repair-system/

YMMV,
a

[tturedraider]

Repeating others: Conti ExtremeContact DWS06 plus or ExtremeContact Sport 02 or Control Contact Sport SRS+, any one is a good choice. I just got the Control Contact Sport SRS+. Discount Tire is your friend.

[NSXR]

Originally Posted by grouxp

Thank you all!

Unless someone wants to talk me out of it (please, don't be shy), I'm inclined to stick with runflats

For the sake of all that's holy, anything but run-flats, please please please.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by grouxp

Thank you all!

Unless someone wants to talk me out of it (please, don't be shy), I'm inclined to stick with runflats because (1) I'm no longer young and am therefore not inclined to change a flat in the Florida heat and/or summer rain and (2) I'd have to buy a jack, spare wheel & tire, and would lose most of my hatchback space.

So, that said, Costco offers the following runflats that would fit:

- Michelin Primacy 3 ($1,493 installed)

- Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT ($1,738 installed)

Any thoughts on either of those, or am I just plain stupid to stick with runflats? Or, is there a better runflat I should get elsewhere? (I don't have to buy from Costco; am just used to buying tires there.)

Thanks again; I really appreciate you BMW veterans helping out this newby!

Haven't read all the posts.

I almost always have my pleasure car fitted with high performance tires -- often it comes this way from the factory -- while my daily driver has been since 2018 almost always fitted with run flats.

Really there is an argument to be made for run flats. There is peace of mind that I can drive the car to a much safer place to then deal with the bad tire. In fact several times now -- with two different cars -- I have driven a car fitted with run flats some miles -- the most was 10 miles -- with one of the tires flat to a dealer to get new tires.

If you want to use run flats my advice to you would be research what run flat tires BMW sanctions for your car and go with those tires.