[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by kid2010

exxxviii turns out you're right, apparently the first location (https://www.plugshare.com/location/457482) I tried is a test site that allows other vehicle manufacturers. I tried a different location (https://www.plugshare.com/location/609260) today, and that one failed with the same error venom21 shared.

Sorry for the false hope...

So there you go. Thank you for the clarification. If it were actually a major loophole it would have been reported everywhere

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by kid2010

exxxviii turns out you're right, apparently the first location (https://www.plugshare.com/location/457482) I tried is a test site that allows other vehicle manufacturers. I tried a different location (https://www.plugshare.com/location/609260) today, and that one failed with the same error venom21 shared.

Sorry for the false hope...

Bummer, and thanks for the follow-up.

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

Well hopefully You can always return it now lol! I knew there was no way Tesla would allow a loophole like that nationwide.

No need; I have a perfect Plan B. My daughter has a Chevrolet Bolt, and GM wants $225 for the adapters. Word is that GM is issuing the Lectron-made adapters to Chevrolet owners and Tesla-made adapters to Cadillac owners.

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

No need; I have a perfect Plan B. My daughter has a Chevrolet Bolt, and GM wants $225 for the adapters. Word is that GM is issuing the Lectron-made adapters to Chevrolet owners and Tesla-made adapters to Cadillac owners.

Works out good then! I’m shocked GM, didn’t do the free thing like Ford

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

Works out good then! I’m shocked GM, didn’t do the free thing like Ford

Right. GM is a bucket of idiots. If I were a GM BEV owner, I would be pissed. The Lectron adapter is $180, and they are pricing them at $225 to Chevy owners.

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

Right. GM is a bucket of idiots. If I were a GM BEV owner, I would be pissed. The Lectron adapter is $180, and they are pricing them at $225 to Chevy owners.

Yep it’s pretty pathetic on their part! I thought it was a nice gesture from ford and Rivian to reward their customers for their loyalty. God forbid GM do the same

[thebishman]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

Right. GM is a bucket of idiots. If I were a GM BEV owner, I would be pissed. The Lectron adapter is $180, and they are pricing them at $225 to Chevy owners.

Are you concerned that GM has stated that anyone not using the GM branded adapter will void the battery warranty should anything happen?

Knowing GM, even though I agree with you that the Lectron adapter could only potentially damage the charging port itself, it WILL refuse warranty coverage because it can save money that way.

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Are you concerned that GM has stated that anyone not using the GM branded adapter will void the battery warranty should anything happen?

Knowing GM, even though I agree with you that the Lectron adapter could only potentially damage the charging port itself, it WILL refuse warranty coverage because it can save money that way.

Nope. GM is a bucket of morons. And there's this pesky little thing called "The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act."

[NomoTesla]

Originally Posted by Pictor

Would that Bolt take up two spots or one?

Good question. I don't know where the Bolt charge port is located and I don't feel like looking it up lol

[Pictor]

Originally Posted by darylp310

I wonder if people who have 2023 iX’s (which do not support the Plug and Charge handshake protocol), can still trick the SuperChargers?

I was at a location today that was showing up in the T* app as being open to 3rd party (GM, Ford, Rivian) manufacturers and tried using a Lectron Vortex plug with my 2023 but no love. Plugged in and I received the "Your vehicle is not able to charge at superchargers at this time" message.

[darylp310]

Originally Posted by Pictor

I was at a location today that was showing up in the T* app as being open to 3rd party (GM, Ford, Rivian) manufacturers and tried using a Lectron Vortex plug with my 2023 but no love. Plugged in and I received the "Your vehicle is not able to charge at superchargers at this time" message.

Argh. Too bad!! Looks like they are indeed whitelisting VINs. Thanks for testing!

[thebishman]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

Nope. GM is a bucket of morons. And there's this pesky little thing called "The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act."

I’m well aware of the MM act, but do you really think it’s worth fighting a mega corporation with lawyers on retainer over saving $40?

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by thebishman

I’m well aware of the MM act, but do you really think it’s worth fighting a mega corporation with lawyers on retainer over saving $40?

I’m pretty confident that kind of fear is a nothing burger. GM is selling the Lectron adapters to their customers.

I didn’t buy it to save money. I got it to have it early so I can tinker.

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

I’m pretty confident that kind of fear is a nothing burger. GM is selling the Lectron adapters to their customers.

I didn’t buy it to save money. I got it to have it early so I can tinker.

Is that official yet though?

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

Is that official yet though?

yes

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

yes

Link?

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

Link?

https://bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/s...&postcount=167

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

https://bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/s...&postcount=167

No I mean a link showing proof that GM is selling lectron adapters. All I can find is that GM is expecting to use several vendors. No specification that lectron is one of them. Or that they’ve been officially endorsed by GM

[NomoTesla]

Originally Posted by darylp310

This loophole sort of makes sense because GM does not support any Plug and Charge protocols, there is no network level security for the Tesla SuperCharger to know what type of car is connected to the dispenser.

Absolutely there is network security. Tesla knows the VIN number of whatever car is charging, make, model, etc. upon plugging-in. If the vehicle is not authenticated to charge on the network, it cannot charge regardless of what you're doing with the app. A simple analogy would be a router that only allows computers with certain MAC addresses to use the network. Same concept.

EA also knows your VIN, make and model simply by plugging in. When I had trouble once and gave them the stall number, they asked if the BMW iX was my car. I had not done anything with the app and was intending to use the NFC reader. They rebooted the stall and compared my charge rate with the average charge curve for the iX and said it was now working. I received a complimentary session.

[exxxviii]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

No I mean a link showing proof that GM is selling lectron adapters. All I can find is that GM is expecting to use several vendors. No specification that lectron is one of them. Or that they’ve been officially endorsed by GM

I know... I was leading with the comedic reply.

I deleted my email from Mary Barra where she told me GM is sourcing from Tesla and Lectron.

On the semi-serious side, I have been following this for a while across multiple forums. The hard information is only about 48 hours old when people started receiving their adapters. The info is spread through dozens of posts and GM training guides that show the Lectron adapter. I got the sense that you are unlikely to buy one regardless, so I did not feel like searching through all those threads and posts to find the information you seek. If you are curious, go to a Chevy dealer and ask their parts department to show you an adapter.

The Tesla-made Adapter is part number 85090442, and the Lectron-made adapter is 85806539.

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by exxxviii

I know... I was leading with the comedic reply.

I deleted my email from Mary Barra where she told me GM is sourcing from Tesla and Lectron.

On the semi-serious side, I have been following this for a while across multiple forums. The hard information is only about 48 hours old when people started receiving their adapters. The info is spread through dozens of posts and GM training guides that show the Lectron adapter. I got the sense that you are unlikely to buy one regardless, so I did not feel like searching through all those threads and posts to find the information you seek. If you are curious, go to a Chevy dealer and ask their parts department to show you an adapter.

The Tesla-made Adapter is part number 85090442, and the Lectron-made adapter is 85806539.

Yeah only the tesla made adapter for me. God knows when I will even need one at this rate BMW will be lucky to be on the network in 2026.

[A418t81]

I hope this happens in the not to distant future. Having SC access on the Rivian has really been great. The iX is a notably better road tripper and this will be a welcome addition.